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Like I said, I do like Cleveland, but I think Louisville would be the best for you guys. While Cleveland and Minneapolis are different from places like Chicago, Rochester, Milwaukee, and Pittsburgh, they're all Great Lakes cities. Louisville would be a good place to change it up that isn't too far. Being on the border of the south and the midwest, it mixes the two pretty well. Compared to Nashville, we're a bit Midwest. Compared to Cleveland, Chicago, etc. we're DEFINITELY Southern. So it would be a short drive for a change of environment and probably feel like more of a getaway.
And being the furthest south, September is still warmer here. This past September was in the 80s and 90s quite a bit still. If we were in the 90s, I'm sure other places weren't cold per se, but you'll definitely get warmer weather here for patio drinking in September. Nearly every bar and restaurant in the city has a big outdoor patio or at least the big front window walls that open all the way up.
Not sure what you're trying to push for Louisville in September, but the Midwest (upper Midwest) in September is heaven! I think you have a warped idea of weather in the upper Midwest.
Not sure what you're trying to push for Louisville in September, but the Midwest (upper Midwest) in September is heaven! I think you have a warped idea of weather in the upper Midwest.
Agreed; September in Minnesota and Wisconsin at least is probably the best, most beautiful weather month in the entire year.
Agreed; September in Minnesota and Wisconsin at least is probably the best, most beautiful weather month in the entire year.
I'd never want to be in the south in September. Minneapolis and Cleveland are both great that time of year. Still kinda hot in the south in Louisville.
and Cleveland too spread out between the nice parts),
A definite falsity posted by IMO a notorious Cleveland basher.
Cleveland has a downtown casino in its massive Tower City complex, which houses two hotels, a mall, restaurants, and is the city's rail transit and bus transit hub. It is connected to the airport by rail transit and is attached by a pedestrian walkway to Quicken Loans Arena and Progressive Field, one of the most enjoyable MLB parks. Typically, you can get great Indians ticket deals at stubhub.com.
If you come in early June, and don't mind paying up for the tickets, you likely (and hopefully) can see the King and the Cavs in the NBA finals.
In August, you could catch a Browns exhibition game at the downtown First Energy Field (all of Cleveland's pro sports venues are downtown, easily walked to although served by rail transit stations, and are within short walking distance of three excellent entertainment/dining districts -- Gateway/East 4th St., Warehouse District, and the East Flats. The Browns have great tailgating parties.
Cleveland's Market District brewery center is a 5-minute rail ride from Tower City, and features some of the best breweries in the Midwest. The Ohio City (of which the Market District is a part) Connector also provides robust bus service to the Market District.
If you want to save some money, consider staying at the Market District's highly-rated Cleveland Hostel (see the discussion of the West Side Market and the Market District in the "Cleveland Tips" travel article linked below.
Also downtown is the Playhouse Square district, with many entertainment options and a Munich-affiliated Hofbrauhaus with a 1,000-seat biergarten.
Activities could include visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, the Steamship Mather, or the U.S.S. Cod, generally considered the best U.S. WWII fleet submarine museum. The excellent Cleveland National Air Show is located downtown at Burke Lakefront Airport on Labor Day weekend.
You also could rent kayaks and explore Cleveland's harbor.
University Circle, besides rail connected to downtown by the 24/7 Healthline bus rapid, one of the world's best BRT lines, is one of the nation's top cultural districts, if that is an interest. See the discussions for University Circle, the Cleveland Museum of Art and the Cleveland Orchestra under attractions in the immediately preceding article.
Cedar Point, the roller coaster capital of the world, is one hour west of downtown. Also check out Put-in-Bay and the Lake Erie islands here (read the Chicago Tribune article).
The problem with cleveland is the east west dichotomy and the 30 min (I think a 30 plus dollar uber if I recall right) ride between them...for example, Ohio city to little italy, university circle
Cleveland's downtown Tower City and University Circle/Little Italy are connected by a 15-minute rail line ride. This poster should know this given his frequent participation in Cleveland-related threads and his claimed visits to Cleveland. RTA day passes currently are $5, and there are free downtown bus trolleys that operate until 11 p.m.
I'm not certain why you would go to Little Italy given all of the downtown options, including Italian, and the plethora of Italian restaurants in Chicago. Famed Chef and TV personality Michael Symon's Mabel's, featuring Symon's Cleveland-style BBQ, on East 4th St. might interest you more.
Cleveland's downtown Tower City and University Circle/Little Italy are connected by a 15-minute rail line ride. This poster should know this given his frequent participation in Cleveland-related threads and his claimed visits to Cleveland. RTA day passes currently are $5, and there are free downtown bus trolleys that operate until 11 p.m.
Cleveland. My college buddies get together in Cleveland in September for the past several years. Everything downtown is walkable, including a casino. You can even walk over to Ohio City but the Red Line train is only 1 stop away and Little Italy/University Circle is a few stops east. Peter 1848 is a notorious Cleveland basher for some reason. Louisville is a small town. Use hotwire for downtown Cleveland and star ratings. E 4th/Casino/Stadium areas have all the makings of a top notch man-cation.
Cleveland is a great lakes town but unique as well.
Btw, September is the best weather month; you guys could even work in an Indians or Browns game. Good authentic Irish bars on the west side (Stone Mad on W65th/Harp etc...lots to do.
Cleveland. My college buddies get together in Cleveland in September for the past several years. Everything downtown is walkable, including a casino. You can even walk over to Ohio City but the Red Line train is only 1 stop away and Little Italy/University Circle is a few stops east. Peter 1848 is a notorious Cleveland basher for some reason. Louisville is a small town. Use hotwire for downtown Cleveland and star ratings. E 4th/Casino/Stadium areas have all the makings of a top notch man-cation.
Cleveland is a great lakes town but unique as well.
Btw, September is the best weather month; you guys could even work in an Indians or Browns game. Good authentic Irish bars on the west side (Stone Mad on W65th/Harp etc...lots to do.
Typically legacy city banter. Live in a declining population area, so try to "diminish" Louisville by calling it a "little" southern town.
Lets go on facts.
The red line takes 37 minutes if you went from a really cool brewery in Ohio City (I chose Platform beer because the 25th st places are overplayed). The funny thing about these CLE boosters is they act like CLE very scant rail system and their museums are like a big city. Let me tell you the Red line in CLE is NOTHING like the Red line in Chicago.
Google is saying a drive is 19 mins, but this is with no traffic. realistically, if they are there during rush hour or an Indians game, this is an easy 30 minute drive, and a very $$$ uber. Cleveland is not a tourist friendly city for a man-cation, and that is why a city like Louisville is building 12 hotels in its downtown alone over the course of the next few months (4 just completed recently, with the latest opening a few weeks ago).
The Op cannot go wrong with any choice listed, but Louisville offers the most unique flair. But I knew this thread would bring out the CLE boosters who rest on the legacy and are jealous of cities to the south which are booming. I don't bash CLE....I only correct people who try to make CLE look like a big city....It is a mid sized city just like Louisville, Columbus, Cincinnati, etc. Sorry, it is. Louisville and CLE offer very similar amenities, albeit very different, and both would be fun for a trip. It is just that Louisville has this fun, younger, growing vibe that CLE does not. Maybe it is partly the bourbon, or maybe it is the fact that from a geographic standpoint, the city is much less spread out, and more compact.
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The red line takes 37 minutes if you went from a really cool brewery in Ohio City (I chose Platform beer because the 25th st places are overplayed). The funny thing about these CLE boosters is they act like CLE very scant rail system and their museums are like a big city. Let me tell you the Red line in CLE is NOTHING like the Red line in Chicago.
Google is saying a drive is 19 mins, but this is with no traffic. realistically, if they are there during rush hour or an Indians game, this is an easy 30 minute drive, and a very $$$ uber. Cleveland is not a tourist friendly city for a man-cation, and that is why a city like Louisville is building 12 hotels in its downtown alone over the course of the next few months (4 just completed recently, with the latest opening a few weeks ago).
The Op cannot go wrong with any choice listed, but Louisville offers the most unique flair. But I knew this thread would bring out the CLE boosters who rest on the legacy and are jealous of cities to the south which are booming. I don't bash CLE....I only correct people who try to make CLE look like a big city....It is a mid sized city just like Louisville, Columbus, Cincinnati, etc. Sorry, it is. Louisville and CLE offer very similar amenities, albeit very different, and both would be fun for a trip. It is just that Louisville has this fun, younger, growing vibe that CLE does not. Maybe it is partly the bourbon, or maybe it is the fact that from a geographic standpoint, the city is much less spread out, and more compact.
You are a Cleveland basher extraordinaire, as proven by this post, and a shameless Louisville booster, such as by claiming Louisville is a superior mancation destination despite that it has no major pro sports and no downtown casino (it's a 20- to 25-minute drive to the Southern Indiana Horseshoe casino).
The facts are that the Cleveland Red Line is 20 minutes from the West 25th St. station to Little Italy. The Red Line is a significant heavy rail transit line, the likes of which Louisville probably will never see, at least in our lifetimes. You picked a relatively distant Market District brewery, and then picked Little Italy, and then ignored that your 37 minutes include a bus transfer and walk time of several minutes. Great deceptive, straw man argument. Few, if any, Cleveland visitors would ever take this trip.
A typical downtown Cleveland visitor would go to and from Great Lakes Brewery to Tower City, a 9-minute trip including a four-minute walk.
A Cleveland visitor can take the Red Line from Hopkins airport to Tower City for $2.25, never setting foot outside.
Visitors to downtown Cleveland could be entertained for three days and never have a need to drive or even use mass transit, despite the latter's ready and robust availability.
Louisville's downtown attractions pale against those available in Cleveland, such as Cleveland's pro sports venues and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.
The Republican Party picked Cleveland for its national convention. It's been listed as a top destination by leading publications.
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