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View Poll Results: Where would you rather live?
Seattle 109 62.64%
Baltimore 65 37.36%
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Old 07-09-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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yes, metro Baltimore added an amazing 29,000 jobs over the last 12 months, almost half as many as the 62,000 added in Metro DC...but being less than 1/2 of DC is considered success in that run down rest stop

but someday, maybe someday, DT Baltimore might have as much office space as Tyson's Corner! Wow, maybe then Harm City will be able to support its own baseball team without a welfare check from people in DC and Northern VA who couldn't care less about the Orioles.
32,300. You're number are a little off. So, now that your credibility has fallen face first, because you were proven wrong, what else can you conjure up?

Tell me more about the welfare check for the Orioles...
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Old 07-09-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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"Very old school economy"? How so?

Clearly Seattle is growing faster than Baltimore economically but Baltimore still has a higher median household income so everything isn't doom and gloom.

And I don't know how Baltimore matches up with Seattle on vibrancy overall, but the Inner Harbor, Fells Point, downtown, etc. are all quite active and vibrant.
Inner Harbor, Fells Point, Federal Hill are pretty crowded, especially in the summertime. Maybe it's it's because if all the unemployed people laid off because of the old school economy.
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Old 07-09-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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32,300. You're number are a little off. So, now that your credibility has fallen face first, because you were proven wrong, what else can you conjure up?

Tell me more about the welfare check for the Orioles...
dude, I'm sorry the facts aren't what you wish them to be, but no need to get personal

jobs data

Table 3. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by state and metropolitan area
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Old 07-09-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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There's been a lot of pedestrian growth in DT Seattle over the last 5-10 years along with all the new construction.

This site https://www.downtownseattle.com/reso...strian-counts/ has good data on where foot traffic is increasing.

Moreover, Seattle's vibrant neighborhoods come without the levels of crime you get in Baltimore. 10 homicides in Seattle vs. 144 in Baltimore, in spite of Seattle having a larger population.
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Old 07-09-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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Most of Baltimore is run down outside of a few neighborhoods surrounding the Harbor and Charles Street (mainly Hampden, Mount Vernon, Harbor East, Federal Hill, Locust Point, Fells Point, Canton, pockets in Highlandtown, and Patterson Park). While Baltimore has made some improvements Seattle as a whole is still a much more livable city at this point.
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Old 07-09-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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There's been a lot of pedestrian growth in DT Seattle over the last 5-10 years along with all the new construction.

This site https://www.downtownseattle.com/reso...strian-counts/ has good data on where foot traffic is increasing.

Moreover, Seattle's vibrant neighborhoods come without the levels of crime you get in Baltimore. 10 homicides in Seattle vs. 144 in Baltimore, in spite of Seattle having a larger population.
The violent crime in Baltimore isn't happening in its most vibrant, desirable neighborhoods for the most part.
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Old 07-09-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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The violent crime in Baltimore isn't happening in its most vibrant, desirable neighborhoods for the most part.
Not sure I agree Baltimore Homicides - baltimoresun.com
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Old 07-09-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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From what I can tell, that map roughly corroborates my point. I'm not intensely familiar with Baltimore but from my many visits there, I could see that just one street can separate the more vibrant, desirable neighborhoods from the rougher ones.
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Old 07-09-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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dude, I'm sorry the facts aren't what you wish them to be, but no need to get personal

jobs data

Table 3. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by state and metropolitan area
Job Growth by Metropolitan Area | Department of Numbers
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Old 07-09-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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There's been a lot of pedestrian growth in DT Seattle over the last 5-10 years along with all the new construction.

This site https://www.downtownseattle.com/reso...strian-counts/ has good data on where foot traffic is increasing.

Moreover, Seattle's vibrant neighborhoods come without the levels of crime you get in Baltimore. 10 homicides in Seattle vs. 144 in Baltimore, in spite of Seattle having a larger population.
The current boom is bringing 20,000 housing units, 3,000 hotel rooms, and 8,500,000 sf of office space in an area of a few square miles. That's off the charts, and totally uncomparable to anything in modern Baltimore history (and even Seattle's modern history).

Now imagine that despite the boom starting to bubble in 2010 and at full bore in 2012, over half of the new space is either under construction or still in the initial lease-up or tenant improvement period.

The increase in pedestrians is also about filling the existing space (housing, offices, hotels) more than it was before. But much of the influx is construction, and basically half of the current wave has yet to come.
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