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Wait. So not "South Park" in Los Angeles? You're asking if some neighborhood in Charlotte that was named after a large indoor shopping mall has the most potential to become an urban destination? Are you serious? And how in the world was anyone to know that this neighborhood was what you meant? I've never heard of it before now. What a terribly vague post to start this thread with.
So ATL is built like Dallas with an urban center and then it just spreads into neighborhoods and suburbs?
Houston has a strange development pattern. It has several different urban centers; Uptown, downtown, Midtown, Medical Center, Greenway, etc.
Although have you seen the new proposals for the River Oaks District yet? It's supposed to be a pretty big high luxury shopping center that will rival the Galleria?
No, Dallas is built similar to Houston. Look at how quick density drops off in the surrounding areas of Uptown Houston and Buckhead. I've seen River Oaks District. It's cute, but the area is not urban and that's the problem. Houston will built a large urban project and have it surrounded with freeways and wide streets.
If one can't walk there. It's not truly urban nor promotes urbanity.
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Originally Posted by Wipe0ut2020
My generation, the millennials, brought the burbs into Inner city Houston with those townhomes. Ironic because they will complain and complain about how Houston isn't urban on reddit, yet can't put two and two to see the little parts (like good sidewalks) that go into the whole that is great urbanity.
Those townhomes could be great if they weren't built behind gates and set off in seclusion. It doesn't really promote what an urban environment is.
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Until Houston, and basically the entire sunbelt outside LA make more of an effort to build human scaled developments and make them cohesive and connected, what you see is what you get. Density without the urbanity.
Wait. So not "South Park" in Los Angeles? You're asking if some neighborhood in Charlotte that was named after a large indoor shopping mall has the most potential to become an urban destination? Are you serious? And how in the world was anyone to know that this neighborhood was what you meant? I've never heard of it before now. What a terribly vague post to start this thread with.
Until Houston, and basically the entire sunbelt outside LA make more of an effort to build human scaled developments and make them cohesive and connected, what you see is what you get. Density without the urbanity.
Bingo!
This idea of just throwing random urban style projects out in the middle of nowhere just really feeds into the already suburban mindset that exists with many sunbelt dwellers.
I think Houston is doing a fantastic job with 4th ward. It's incorporating the already preexisting structures and style of the area, but already creating a more pedestrian friendly environment.
No, Dallas is built similar to Houston. Look at how quick density drops off in the surrounding areas of Uptown Houston and Buckhead. I've seen River Oaks District. It's cute, but the area is not urban and that's the problem. Houston will built a large urban project and have it surrounded with freeways and wide streets.
If one can't walk there. It's not truly urban nor promotes urbanity.
Those townhomes could be great if they weren't built behind gates and set off in seclusion. It doesn't really promote what an urban environment is.
The overall urban densities of Dallas and Houston are more comparable, but what Atlanta shares with the former is a smaller core surrounded by many independent suburbs and counties. They're a lot more like each other in this way.
The city is developing its own style of urbanity, which I am fine with. I don't care as much about wide sidewalks or rowhouses. I don't want Houston to look like New York or Chicago. I want it to look like Houston - with rail.
Having wide sidewalks hardly makes one look like Chicago or New York. It makes you look like a walkable city. Like the majority of the rest of the world. No pedestrian is trying to compete with other cars on the same street. Not to mention, pedestrians aren't going to walk on disappearing sidewalks either consistently. You also don't need row homes to be urban though better use of land does help towards an urban environment.
This idea of just throwing random urban style projects out in the middle of nowhere just really feeds into the already suburban mindset that exists with many sunbelt dwellers.
I think Houston is doing a fantastic job with 4th ward. It's incorporating the already preexisting structures and style of the area, but already creating a more pedestrian friendly environment.
Look at the streetview compared to the others. Buckhead is more than Lenox.
There is no part of Buckhead I'd describe as anything close to gritty.
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