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Old 07-29-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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How is the metro rate compared to last year?
FBI only does metro murder rate once every 2 years so I don't really know...since Atlanta is the bulk of the murders, I'd imagine it would be down.
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Old 07-30-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Maine
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FBI only does metro murder rate once every 2 years so I don't really know...since Atlanta is the bulk of the murders, I'd imagine it would be down.
Atlanta metro had 352 homicides in 2015 and the city had 94.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Miami is on track for the same number of murders it had in 2005. It's not really a downward trend from the early 2000s there. If anything the mountain peaks a little higher each time. In 2000, Miami-Dade had 197 homicides. Last year, Miami-Dade had 237 homicides. Gun homicides also rising. There was a 38.5% increase in gun homicides in the state of Florida between 2000 and 2011.

The worst year for homicides in the city of Miami in the 21st century was 2014 with 81 homicides.

Camden fluctuates the same way, with Camden's worst year in the 21st century being 2012 with 67 homicides.


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Old 07-30-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Miami is on track for the same number of murders it had in 2005. It's not really a downward trend from the early 2000s there. If anything the mountain peaks a little higher each time. In 2000, Miami-Dade had 197 homicides. Last year, Miami-Dade had 237 homicides. Gun homicides also rising. There was a 38.5% increase in gun homicides in the state of Florida between 2000 and 2011.

The worst year for homicides in the city of Miami in the 21st century was 2014 with 81 homicides.

Camden fluctuates the same way, with Camden's worst year in the 21st century being 2012 with 67 homicides.
Homicides are down in city of Miami and Miami Beach but outside the city limit there was increase in homicides because city pushing poor more out the city. Remember Miami-Dade Coubty
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Atlanta metro had 352 homicides in 2015 and the city had 94.
What suburb is producing the most homicides? Taking out atlanta thats 258 homicides, I feel thats alot to spread around suburbs considering that there are millions of other people in the burbs it still just appears alot to me.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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What suburb is producing the most homicides? Taking out atlanta thats 258 homicides, I feel thats alot to spread around suburbs considering that there are millions of other people in the burbs it still just appears alot to me.
I am not impressed when cities push poverty out of their jurisdiction and people brag on how safe xyz city is.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Maine
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What suburb is producing the most homicides? Taking out atlanta thats 258 homicides, I feel thats alot to spread around suburbs considering that there are millions of other people in the burbs it still just appears alot to me.
The FBI didn't really break it down too much.

Miami metro had about 400 homicides in 2015 while the city had 75. Philly had 280 in the city and 450 in the metro. DC had 162 in the city and almost 300 in the metro. Boston had 39 in the city and 86 in the metro.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6

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Old 07-30-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Atlanta metro had 352 homicides in 2015 and the city had 94.
Damn!
I think Chicagoland barely scratched 150 murders in 2015 when the city itself is taking out of the equation. Gary alone, which is like the Camden of the metro, would account for one-third or more of those murders. What other metros have more homicides in the suburbs/satellite cities than in the principal city? The only one I can think of besides Atlanta and Miami apparently is perhaps LA, with its numerous suburbs with 100k+ residents and one city that is as populated as Atlanta.

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According to the data, Chicago metro outside of Chicago had 201 murders. A significant chunk occurred in Gary(equivalent to Camden) with 50 murders. A bit more than I expected, but still Chicago had 70% of the 679 murders. Milwaukee is even more city-centered, with 155 murders in the metro and 145 of that occurring in Milwaukee proper.

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Old 07-30-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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What suburb is producing the most homicides? Taking out atlanta thats 258 homicides, I feel thats alot to spread around suburbs considering that there are millions of other people in the burbs it still just appears alot to me.
The rate for the rest of the metro is 5 per 100,000 which while high for U.S suburban areas isn't anything exceptionally dangerous. Their are a few towns and suburbs that have become ghettos that's are a little troubling but with the small city limit sizes ignorings next to impossible to truly call any of these areas ghettos.
-College Park
- East Point
-Huge Portion of Clayton County (more dangerous than the County Atlanta is in)
- Smaller Portion of DeKalb County
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The rate for the rest of the metro is 5 per 100,000 which while high for U.S suburban areas isn't anything exceptionally dangerous. Their are a few towns and suburbs that have become ghettos that's are a little troubling but with the small city limit sizes ignorings next to impossible to truly call any of these areas ghettos.
-College Park
- East Point
-Huge Portion of Clayton County (more dangerous than the County Atlanta is in)
- Smaller Portion of DeKalb County
It would be quite a bit higher if we went by urban area instead of metro area. The Atlanta metro consists of about 30 counties and they aren't particularly small. Only 5 of them have a density over 1,000 ppsm (just these 5 counties alone would cut the Atlanta MSA population in half and there are still chunks of each of these counties that couldn't be considered part of the urban area). The Atlanta metro is 7 times the size of Rhode Island in area (including RI's water), or about the size of all of NJ and almost the size of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, or Vermont.

Atlanta's not the only city like that though. Every American city is. Philadelphia's metro has a county with only 193 ppsm and a county even in Maryland that is actually closer to Baltimore (30 miles at their closest points). The St Louis metro has about 14 counties plus the city of St Louis but the STL urban area is more or less the City of STL and STL County. St Louis had 188 homicides last year and the county had 78 so STL + STLC had 266 homicides with 1.3 million people.

Memphis too. The Memphis metro area consists of 9 counties, when mostly the City of Memphis is the urban area. Even a lot of Shelby County which is the county Memphis is in isn't part of the urban area.

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