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I really hope people are not voting for Seattle just because it rains a lot! I can see people saying Seattle has a strong relationship with the Puget Sound or Lake Washington but rain itself has nothing to do with culture.
Regardless of the reason, anyone who even remotely knows South Florida and is honest will say the winner for this poll should be Miami. The real battle is for SECOND place.
Why? It's rainy climate has been contributed as part of the reason for the "Seattle Freeze", Grunge music, and the popularity of coffee in Seattle, etc... So you honestly don't think the climate of a place has an effect on the local culture?
Why? It's rainy climate has been contributed as part of the reason for the "Seattle Freeze", Grunge music, and the popularity of coffee in Seattle, etc... So you honestly don't think the climate of a place has an effect on the local culture?
What does rain have to do with the popularity of coffee in Seattle?
You can swim in cold water. You just can't do it for long without a wet suit. Your heart rate will increase and your veins will constrict causing you to lose feel in your limbs. And if you can't move your limbs, then you can't tread water.
Well I can last about a good half hour in the Puget sound and during heat waves even more. (however I do take small breaks and go to shallower areas and stand up to my waist before going back out to swim) Also the surface of the water is warmer than what is down below so if you float on your back it's not as bad. The water in the Puget sound can hit the lower 60s in the summer but usually in the mid to upper 50s. Anyway I still think that Miami should win the poll.
Well I can last about a good half hour in the Puget sound and during heat waves even more. (however I do take small breaks and go to shallower areas and stand up to my waist before going back out to swim) Also the surface of the water is warmer than what is down below so if you float on your back it's not as bad. The water in the Puget sound can hit the lower 60s in the summer but usually in the mid to upper 50s. Anyway I still think that Miami should win the poll.
You can swim in water even colder than that, but you can't do it for long. Most posters on C-D seem to think air temperature and water temperature are the same thing, hence the "I don't want to swim in Miami's bathwater!" statements. But the pools Michael Phelps swims in are around 80 degrees on average and there's no one in this subforum that comes close to expending the amount of energy he does on a single lap. At 80 degrees, a fair number of people will recoil after sticking their foot in the water, and will often need a few minutes to get acclimated to the water temperature.
Once you get below a certain temperature, 99% of the people you see in the water will be triathletes, and 95% of them will be wearing wet suits.
Probably has to do with locals enjoying being inside a warm, cozy coffee shop on a cold and rainy day.
That seems logical, but then coffee, or cafecita, is a popular beverage in Miami and throughout much of Latin America. It's also popular in Italy, which for the most part does not have a cold or rainy climate. The Northeastern U.S. has its fair share of cold, dreary days, but there doesn't seem to be as much of a coffee culture here.
Here's one article I found on coffee's popularity in Seattle.
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Coffee's image has come a long way to land on the pages of Teen People. After World War II, "coffee was perceived as an old-fashioned drink of the older generation, of businessmen and gossiping housewives," explains Mark Pendergrast, author of "Uncommon Grounds: The History of Coffee and How It Transformed Our World." Not only was the quality of most American coffee atrocious, stale before it went into the can and brewed vapid in percolators, he says, but "the advertising was abysmal as well, with Mrs. Olsen and Aunt Cora exhorting housewives to save their marriages by serving good coffee." It's no surprise Coke and Pepsi were able to steal away the boomers.
Then came the beatnik cafes of the 1960s, which introduced fringe types to the European coffeehouse. Seattle historian Walt Crowley hung out as a teenager in the mid-'60s on The Ave at the Eigerwand, which boasted one of the first espresso machines in town. "I would sit around and espouse Marxism and write and read bad poetry."
Far from the mainstream teen hangout that coffee bars have become, he says, "Going to a coffeehouse was a statement. You weren't hanging out at Dick's or Burger Master with the muscle-car guys after the football game or at the soda fountain like the glee club. It was about rebelling and smoking with eclectic, potentially dangerous people."
Water defines everything in Seattle - the lakes, the sound, the ship canal, the beaches, the ferries, the islands, the locks, etc. The city basically revolves around water. And the maritime culture is second to none (e.g. The Deadliest Catch crew is based out of the Seattle, Seattle has the busiest Ferry system in the world, house boats are everywhere, etc.)
What does rain have to do with the popularity of coffee in Seattle?
"In the late 1960s and early ‘70s, coffeehouses began to pop up around the city as bohemian culture melded with the desire for hot brews during Seattle’s rainy months. "
You can swim in water even colder than that, but you can't do it for long. Most posters on C-D seem to think air temperature and water temperature are the same thing, hence the "I don't want to swim in Miami's bathwater!" statements. But the pools Michael Phelps swims in are around 80 degrees on average and there's no one in this subforum that comes close to expending the amount of energy he does on a single lap. At 80 degrees, a fair number of people will recoil after sticking their foot in the water, and will often need a few minutes to get acclimated to the water temperature.
Once you get below a certain temperature, 99% of the people you see in the water will be triathletes, and 95% of them will be wearing wet suits.
That is true, I used to think that as well until one day when I went into a pool that was 70F and I though it was going to be very warm like bath water, but it turned out it was still cold and took a while for me to acclimatize.
That is true, I used to think that as well until one day when I went into a pool that was 70F and I though it was going to be very warm like bath water, but it turned out it was still cold and took a while for me to acclimatize.
Water in the high 70s is great when you are training for a meet. It's not so great if you just want to be in the water with friends/family.
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