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View Poll Results: Most urban?
Dallas 62 51.24%
Atlanta 55 45.45%
Charlotte 4 3.31%
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Old 09-05-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Atlanta is the most densely populated of the three. Dallas and Charlotte are a distant second and third respectively.
What?!

 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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What?!
He could have meant downtown core.That would be true

Dallas =10,766
Charlotte-16,500
Atlanta-26,700
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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He could have meant downtown core.That would be true

Dallas =10,766
Charlotte-16,500
Atlanta-26,700
What is the geographic extent of those areas?
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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What is the geographic extent of those areas?
Downtown Dallas is only the interstate ring and that's only 1.4 sq miles. Downtown Atlanta, I believe, is 4 sq. miles. Uptown Charlotte is 2.4 sq. miles. Even if so, no way does Atlanta leave Dallas in the dust in density.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 08:16 PM
 
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Downtown Dallas is only the interstate ring and that's only 1.4 sq miles. Downtown Atlanta, I believe, is 4 sq. miles. Uptown Charlotte is 2.4 sq. miles. Even if so, no way does Atlanta leave Dallas in the dust in density.
If you add Downtown+Midtown Atlanta you get about 69,000 people in 7.8 sq miles (8846ppsm) according to Wikipedia. I don't know what the Dallas equivalent would be. But I do think the core of Atlanta is more traditionally urban than Dallas.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 08:17 PM
 
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Uptown Dallas-20,627
Southpark Charlotte-17,765
Buckhead Atlanta-78,676
Midtown Core, 43,347. • Greater Midtown, 81,418
 
Old 09-05-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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If you add Downtown+Midtown Atlanta you get about 69,000 people in 7.8 sq miles (8846ppsm) according to Wikipedia. I don't know what the Dallas equivalent would be. But I do think the core of Atlanta is more traditionally urban than Dallas.
It is.Im sure he meant metro wide but its still extremely close as mentioned earlier.This does show that density and urbanity should be taken in context.
Dallas may have more areas throughout its metro with more density but still doesnt make it more urban.The Cumberland Area in Atlanta has density but its still not urban,

Uptown Dallas is more densely populated than Downtown Dallas and probaly more dense than Buckhead or Downtown Atlanta

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Old 09-05-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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Some sites has Uptown Dallas population at 20k. Other sites has it up to 60k.

I did say though that the core of Atlanta is more urban but the rest of the city of Dallas is more urban than the rest of the city of Atlanta.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Uptown Dallas-20,627
Southpark Charlotte-17,765
Buckhead Atlanta-78,676
Midtown Core, 43,347. • Greater Midtown, 81,418
20,000 was Uptown Dallas' population in the 2014 population estimates. A lot has been developed within the 1 square mile of Uptown's borders since then. "Uptown Dallas" is technically just 1 square mile and butts right up against downtown. The population counts do not include the Harwood District or Victory Park which is often said to be in Uptown and both have a lot of development as well, but they technically aren't within the PID.

The two cities are laid out differently. The large area that is "Midtown Atlanta" which is South and East of I-85 and West of Monroe Drive is an area a lot larger than Uptown Dallas. ATL's DT population numbers include a radius around the core of the city rather than just downtown proper.

You'd have to add up several areas to get the full population of the core of Dallas: Downtown, Uptown, Harwood District, Victory Park, Design District, Oak Lawn, The Cedars, Deep Ellum, Bryan Place, Knox-Henderson...

You go from Downtown into Midtown and then in Buckhead in Atlanta. Those three areas cover a broad swath of the city's population.

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Old 09-06-2018, 05:15 AM
 
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20,000 was Uptown Dallas' population in the 2014 population estimates. A lot has been developed within the 1 square mile of Uptown's borders since then. "Uptown Dallas" is technically just 1 square mile and butts right up against downtown. The population counts do not include the Harwood District or Victory Park which is often said to be in Uptown and both have a lot of development as well, but they technically aren't within the PID.

The two cities are laid out differently. The large area that is "Midtown Atlanta" which is South and East of I-85 and West of Monroe Drive is an area a lot larger than Uptown Dallas. ATL's DT population numbers include a radius around the core of the city rather than just downtown proper.

You'd have to add up several areas to get the full population of the core of Dallas: Downtown, Uptown, Harwood District, Victory Park, Design District, Oak Lawn, The Cedars, Deep Ellum, Bryan Place, Knox-Henderson...

You go from Downtown into Midtown and then in Buckhead in Atlanta. Those three areas cover a broad swath of the city's population.
So whats the new total?You know how these stats work.Atlanta has not bee standing still either.In Fact downtown Atlanta is reaching 500 million in development plans at the moment.
The redevelopment of Summerhill and new additions to Castlberry Hill are big projects.
It sounds like a whole lot of excuses.The areas are defined as they are.
It's already pointed out that the Dallas is less than 500 per sq mi.more dense which is ridiculous to act as though thats some huge advantage.
The areas are built different so we can both make accept ions for both areas
From what I've read many of those areas you mentioned are only partially in Dallas Downtown.

Either way you look at it is what it is.Most people will agree Atlanta's core is noticeably more urban than Dallas core.PERIOD.
There is more vibrancy in the day and night in its core.Especially with Atlanta conventions,attractions and one of the largest hotel districts in the country.
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