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Dallas 62 51.24%
Atlanta 55 45.45%
Charlotte 4 3.31%
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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Actually, no...Atlanta typically ranks far worse than Dallas when it comes to traffic congestion and hours spent in it:

https://www.smartertravel.com/2018/0...ed-u-s-cities/

https://www.statista.com/chart/12855...gested-cities/


The lack of a good arterial system to augment the freeways in Atlanta definitely has an impact on how things flow throughout the metro area compared to Dallas and its grid system. Even the freeways mostly follow a grid with some diagonals throughout North Texas. Houston and Atlanta's hub-and-spoke systems might have worked better back in the days when Downtown was the only job center in each respective metro area, but since both cities have multiple job centers scattered throughout the metro, the hub-and-spoke system isn't as flexible for that type of city layout.

Inner Loop Houston has a far more uniform grid system than Atlanta as well, and lushness has nothing to do with it's layout (New Orleans is in the same climatic zone as Houston and has similar terrain and layout but it's streets are on a grid). It's more about the bayous breaking up the system and the lack of uniform city planning in the city due to the lack of zoning laws and developers plotting streets in a haphazard fashion. While it doesn't have the uniform grid of DFW (and its far flatter there than the rolling prairie in Dallas, so terrain really is irrelevant too), it has a lot of arterial streets that are parallel to the freeways, but not to the degree of DFW, but certainly far more than Atlanta.
My point is that the difference is not major.They both rank in the top 10 cities for worse traffic.
Seven years ago Dallas was in the top 5 and Atlanta was not in the top 10.These ranking are recent because Atlanta has not been in the top ten since the late nineties early 2000s.
I really think this is due to all the massive amounts of road work on Atlantas's interstates as more of the interstates in the metro have had major expansions,toll roads, and all new extensions.The new Suntrust stadium construction added a great deal to that but its almost completely done
The new major expansions North of the city will be open soon and that will help alot along with the other planned openings across the metro over the years

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Old 08-26-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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Newnan
Senoia
Whittier Mill
Marietta
Roswell
Smyrna
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Most? Marietta, Roswell, and Smyrna aren't nearly that far from Atlanta proper.
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With the exception of Newnan and Senoia, they do.
And Whittier Mill is a neighborhood in the City of Atlanta proper.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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It we are discussing the metro,why would we cut off parts of a metro based on your distance requirements? Surely you are not suggesting those areas are less integral to the metro than others within the metro?
Whittier Mill is in Atlanta,Its a historic neighborhood just South of Cobb in the City pf Atlanta.
There are many of these areas within the metro .Some not as well known like Rex Mill area. In Cobb near Old Concourse Road is a very beautiful area with creeks forest and a one way bridge that is over a hundred years old

Yes, Icon's list above was just a sample. It did not include all.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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https://adventure.howstuffworks.com/...ed-states7.htm

Dallas suburbs are nice tidy and bland.All you mainly see is the same 3 or4 styles of 2story brick houses mainly.
Atlanta suburbs are very self sufficient and have their own character
How can you tell when you leave East Cobb and enter Sandy Springs or Alpharetta? Then Johns Creek and Roswell, then Peachtree Corners and Duluth... Those places all look the same for the most part. I'm not sure what differentiating factor makes the ATL suburbs so different from the other.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 11:03 PM
 
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How can you tell when you leave East Cobb and enter Sandy Springs or Alpharetta? Then Johns Creek and Roswell, then Peachtree Corners and Duluth... Those places all look the same for the most part. I'm not sure what differentiating factor makes the ATL suburbs so different from the other.
Well East Cobb is largely residential; it doesn't have the office presence of Sandy Springs or Alpharetta. Johns Creek has more of a master-planned feel than the rest. Roswell actually has a historic commercial core. Peachtree Corners has a decent office presence as well. I think that would probably be the major difference between those suburbs. However you won't really encounter *major* differences among them since they are all middle/upper-middle class suburbs.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 11:52 PM
 
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How can you tell when you leave East Cobb and enter Sandy Springs or Alpharetta? Then Johns Creek and Roswell, then Peachtree Corners and Duluth... Those places all look the same for the most part. I'm not sure what differentiating factor makes the ATL suburbs so different from the other.
You caint leave East Cobb and enter Alpharetta...
 
Old 08-26-2018, 11:53 PM
 
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How can you tell when you leave East Cobb and enter Sandy Springs or Alpharetta? Then Johns Creek and Roswell, then Peachtree Corners and Duluth... Those places all look the same for the most part. I'm not sure what differentiating factor makes the ATL suburbs so different from the other.
When is the last time you spent considerable time in these metro communities around Atlanta?Some of these places are not exactly different but the ones that are,are very much so.
Its telling that you skip over more obvious areas unique areas like Decatur,Marietta,Covington,Senoia,Fayetteville,etc for Duluth,and Peachtree Corners.Maybe you just dont know about those areas in which case,you cant question anybody elses opinion.

Dunwoody,Sandy Springs,Alpharetta,Woodstock all have neighborhoods and subdivisions that are similar throughout the metro like all suburbs across the U.S.,but those areas each have historic ,whole new downtown,or redeveloped towns.
Since when does Roswell which was founded in 1840's as a mill town in which the mill still stands,looks like Johns Creek a city founded about 6 years ago and Sandy Springs which is only maybe 10 years old?
Even Sandy Springs is currently undergoing a more than a billion dollar retrofit.Personally still not my favorite area as it looks so new and tidy.Like Dallas,lol Yet its an improvement that merits special attention as its quite impressive the transformation that has occurred
 
Old 08-27-2018, 01:04 AM
 
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You caint leave East Cobb and enter Alpharetta...
I'm guessing he meant Roswell which is close enough.
 
Old 08-27-2018, 01:46 AM
 
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I'm guessing he meant Roswell which is close enough.

He needs to get it right.

Alpharetta ain't on the border of fashionable East Cobb.


I would think you, of all people, would find that unacceptable.
 
Old 08-27-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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He needs to get it right.

Alpharetta ain't on the border of fashionable East Cobb.


I would think you, of all people, would find that unacceptable.
It's not that serious dude LOL. It's not some huge egregious error, especially considering the fact that the border between Roswell and Alpharetta gets pretty confusing in some places. It would've been different if he mentioned a suburb that was nowhere close to East Cobb like Fayetteville or Lawrenceville or something. I fully understand the point he's trying to make.

Only an Alpharetta snob would take offense at someone confusing them with poor, rundown Roswell but I didn't peg you for one of those types.

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