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I'm sorry but you can't limit downtown Chicago to just the Loop. These stats don't even include the highly residential Lakeview East (New East Side). Even goggle adds it o the Loop. But anyone who has ben to Chicago . Soon realizes it is way more then the Loop.
Even San Francisco this low.... really must be just using the Financial district. Just ridiculous to limit it like it apparently does.
We have been thru this with the OP's threads before......
It does include the Lakeview East. If Rivernorth and area adjacent were included: nearly 50,000
America's Best big city downtowns 2018 update: A lot has changed in the last few years. Some downtowns that were afterthoughts are among the best. Whole Urban Core is included here.
Criteria:
1. Vitality
2. High rises
3. Walkability
4. Ambiance
5. Safety
6. population
7. Cleanliness
8. Overall Appeal
1. NY
2. Chicago
3. Los Angeles
4. SF
5. Seattle
6. Boston
7. Philly
8. Houston
9. Miami
10.Portland
11.Denver/Washington tie
12.Dallas
13.Detroit
14.Minneapolis
15.San Antonio
16.Pittsburgh
Honorable Mentions: Austin, Nashville, Cleveland and Milwaukee
I'd move Philly up to #5 at least . DC probably higher and Houston.... I'd say lower yet .... but that is subjective . This is a MUCH BETTER DOWNTOWN thread and list that you made.
NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco are excluded from this survey.
Philadelphia 180,000
Chicago 136,000
Miami 80,750
Denver 73,000
Seattle 70,000
LA 58.702
Orlando 43,388
Minneapolis 40,000
Detroit 35,000
San Diego 35,000
Very interesting take from this survey: Downtown San Jose core is around 15,000 to 20,000, according to recent city's retail report, which is very similar. Downtown area from 11th street to Bird ave east and west and from 280 to Taylor is around 45,000 to 55,000 depending on surveys.
NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco are excluded from this survey.
Philadelphia 180,000
Chicago 136,000
Miami 80,750
Denver 73,000
Seattle 70,000
LA 58.702
Orlando 43,388
Minneapolis 40,000
Detroit 35,000
San Diego 35,000
I would bet one of my fingers the San Jose one is wrong if you actually measure up the census tracts that can truly be considered "downtown". I've been there and it's tiny.
Downtown LA is about 80,000. Here is link that I found from Rep of Michigan's link of DTLA https://www.downtownla.com/do-biz/dt...dential-growth 79,525 So dont kow where the 58,702 came from that website when they linked it to that page by downtownla.com
I would bet one of my fingers the San Jose one is wrong if you actually measure up the census tracts that can truly be considered "downtown". I've been there and it's tiny.
Downtown core: estimate from 12,000 to 25,000. Downtown frame: anywhere from 38,000 to 75,000 depending on what survey they go by. Walkscore pegs it also at 50,000 which is about average reading of Downtown SJ on various surveys: . Downtown council district: 93,000. https://www.walkscore.com/CA/San_Jose/Downtown
Have you been there recently? It's actually really big: from San Jose State University on one side to Diridon station/Whole Foods on the other side. It also includes Market Center shopping on Coleman. That's only talking about the core. The Frame includes part of Japantown and goes all the way down to Keys.
Very interesting take from this survey: Downtown San Jose core is around 15,000 to 20,000, according to recent city's retail report, which is very similar. Downtown area from 11th street to Bird ave east and west and from 280 to Taylor is around 45,000 to 55,000 depending on surveys.
Downtown Boston: 33,000, according to City Date(had to add all the downtown areas like Financial District, Commons, West End, Downtown Crossing, Chinatown and few other hoods) and only 9,200, according to Walk score https://www.walkscore.com/MA/Boston/Downtown
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Downtown Boston: 33,000, according to City Date(had to add all the downtown areas like Financial District, Commons, West End, Downtown Crossing, Chinatown and few other hoods) and only 9,200, according to Walk score https://www.walkscore.com/MA/Boston/Downtown
The total population of the entire Peninsula up to Mass Ave is close to 100,000. Boston chooses to call only a small part of the inner core "downtown" Back Bay and South End should be considered downtown. Hell, Beacon Hill isn't even considered Downtown. The peninsula is so small that a feel everything on it should be considered downtown. Most tourists do anyway.
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