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There is no way Chicago's downtown is only 25,000.... I smell a cherry picked source...
Loop is, but all of greater downtown is around 50,000 which includes River North and surrounding areas. If you want to include South Loop and all the way up to Gold Coast/Lincoln Park: around 150,000 which would be so debatable( more than 5 miles stretch). Anyway, 25,000 for Loop/East Lakeshore area, according to City Data 2016. Done some research and tried to be as accurate as possible.
Last edited by the topper; 07-11-2019 at 01:42 AM..
Every city defines their "Downtown"differently. Borders change, place names change over time. Downtown LA has grown over the 100+ years and started incorporating lots of industrial areas. 1/2 of Downtown LA is industrial/warehouse/wholesale. The other half is entirely commercial office buildings, shopping, cultural buildings, government buildings. Less than 20 years ago it had a population of 20,000 mostly in the Chinatown area and various parts that are for senior citizens like bunker hill, Little Tokyo. Bunker Hill around Figueroa had some towers built in the 60s I think. Some SROs in the historic core and skid row area. Otherwise not many lived there. It is different from the more purely residential areas that surround it.
Today most people think of Downtown is defined by the freeway loop of Interstate 10,110,101. These freeways built in the 50s or 60s cut through downtown and clearly separated neighborhoods with this physical barrier. But Downtown is not defined by the freeways. Chinatown/Union Station/Olvera, City West are across the freeway and are definitely part of Downtown. Downtown even includes Figueroa Corridor (USC/Exposition Park) as part of Downtown.
The walkscore link for LA is kinds of wrong. The map leaves out Chinatown, Little Tokyo and the Arts District where tens of thousands of people live in these massive mid-rise buildings built the past 10 years. Dont know why it would leave out 1/2 the population of Downtown.
Downtown Boston: 33,000, according to City Date(had to add all the downtown areas like Financial District, Commons, West End, Downtown Crossing, Chinatown and few other hoods) and only 9,200, according to Walk score https://www.walkscore.com/MA/Boston/Downtown
Does that include Brickell for Miami? Walk Score used to separate the two between downtown & Brickell and the population was around 85,000.
Does that include Brickell for Miami? Walk Score used to separate the two between downtown & Brickell and the population was around 85,000.
Walk Score seperates CBD quadrants for. They give downtown Baltimore a population a little under 7k but it exclude all of Mt. Vernon which holds easily another ~4k people
Does that include Brickell for Miami? Walk Score used to separate the two between downtown & Brickell and the population was around 85,000.
The CBD and Brickell combined is roughly 42-47K. The numbers of downtown Miami being 85-90K are only from the DDA and include everything from Brickell to Wynwood. They're an SPB with a goal in mind to bring investment to the downtown area, so they inflate all numbers. The city of Miami considers downtown just the CBD and Brickell.
Charlotte as of 2019 is 23,000 people in 2 sq. Miles
The boundaries of it are very simple though. It’s a the inside of the I-277 loop that encircles it. Some cities without highway barriers include stretching arms and areas of downtown. Some larger cities (DC, I assume Chicago based on some low numbers I’ve saw) seem to include the portions of downtown that are pretty much all office.
Like “downtown” DC probably has a lower population. But it’s the area mostly of office. And there’s really no way any person could ever tell where downtown ends or begins because it’s not obvious because the development pattern is the same.
So for smaller cities with barriers (highways, water, etc), there numbers are probably most accurate.
Cities without natural barriers are probably exaggerated by including high density areas surrounding the downtown.
The largest cities are probably the least accurate because they generally use the term downtown to describe the area where offices are clustered.
It does include the Lakeview East. If Rivernorth and area adjacent were included: nearly 50,000
Where to begin, where to begin......
It's River North, not Rivernorth
Lakeview is up on the north side, well removed from downtown, and isn't the place you are talking about
Lakeshore East is the place; no it is not Lakeview East
And neither Lakeview or Lakeshore East carry a "The" in their names.
However, to your credit, you were correct on Chicago's downtown core. It is indeed called The Great Above Ground Rounded Rectangle as you stated. Not far from the Naval Supply Pier, the Has-Been sculpture, and the Chinatown-to-end-all-Chinatowns, Chicago's very own River Wok.
You sure know Chicago, topper
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