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Originally Posted by _Buster
Baltimore and Washington aren't really all that different historically, excepting the industrial history of Baltimore and the government history of Washington. they were both important historical areas in colonial times, war of 1812, etc and grew at roughly the same times, but Baltimore was the bigger city through most of the past 200 years until fairly recently. obviously Washington is a lot different than most cities, being the nation's capital, but Baltimore is not as different as is may seem. They both also have southern and northern influences and a midatlantic feel.
Agreed, very distinct cities with many similarities also.
(And most of the cities that were created to be the seats of their national governments, or that serve that function alone, are usually not among the most influential in their respective countries: consider Ottawa, Canberra, Brasilia and the new Nigerian capital, whose name escapes me
Ottawa is actually not a planned capital city like the others mentioned.
Wow, why is LA-San Diego hardly getting any votes? I'm telling you, San Diego is culturally indistinguishable from LA. The two are much, much more similar to each other than Philly and NYC.
Even Bay Area-Sacramento should be getting more votes, because Sacramento is filled with Bay Area transplants.
Wow, why is LA-San Diego hardly getting any votes? I'm telling you, San Diego is culturally indistinguishable from LA. The two are much, much more similar to each other than Philly and NYC.
Even Bay Area-Sacramento should be getting more votes, because Sacramento is filled with Bay Area transplants.
Isn't there this big patch of undeveloped-forever land called Camp Pendleton separating those two?
If I'm right, that may be the reason why.
In all of the other cities that seem to be getting top mentions, their suburbs (or exurbs) now run into each other. Since there's identifiable empty land, and lots of it, between LA and SD, the two feel more separate, no matter how much alike (or close to each other) they are.
Isn't there this big patch of undeveloped-forever land called Camp Pendleton separating those two?
If I'm right, that may be the reason why.
In all of the other cities that seem to be getting top mentions, their suburbs (or exurbs) now run into each other. Since there's identifiable empty land, and lots of it, between LA and SD, the two feel more separate, no matter how much alike (or close to each other) they are.
Yes, but cultural relationships trump geographical proximity.
If we're talking mostly about geographical proximity, then hey, San Diego-Tijuana should be added to this list and would have the closest relationship.
Yes, but cultural relationships trump geographical proximity.
If we're talking mostly about geographical proximity, then hey, San Diego-Tijuana should be added to this list and would have the closest relationship.
San Diego-Tijuana, El Paso-Juarez, Laredo-Nuevo Laredo and Brownsville-Matamoros are for all intents and purposes a single metropolitan area, like Minneapolis-St. Paul, Portland-Vancouver (WA), Dallas-Fort Worth, the two Kansas Cities and Buffalo-Fort Erie/the two Niagara Fallses.
Geographical proximity does matter, for it's that overlapping in physical space that makes the relationship a "relationship rather than a pair of cities that are culturally similar. There's less of a relationship between cities with little intercourse (of the economic/social kind) between them.
MSAs and CSAs are determined based on economic and social interaction between their constituent parts, not on any cultural affinities. So it is with nearby cities not in the same metropolitan area. Camp Pendelton's presence cuts down on what would probably have been robust intercourse between LA and SD, for the two metropolises would have grown towards each other.
I could say that KC and Omaha are culturally similar, and I probably wouldn't be that far off the mark. But they're separated by 200 miles of farmland with a smaller city in between them as well. So they're not really related, even though KC's American League baseball team bases its AAA affiliate in Omaha and the two shared an NBA franchise for a while.
San Diego-Tijuana, El Paso-Juarez, Laredo-Nuevo Laredo and Brownsville-Matamoros are for all intents and purposes a single metropolitan area, like Minneapolis-St. Paul, Portland-Vancouver (WA), Dallas-Fort Worth, the two Kansas Cities and Buffalo-Fort Erie/the two Niagara Fallses.
Geographical proximity does matter, for it's that overlapping in physical space that makes the relationship a "relationship rather than a pair of cities that are culturally similar. There's less of a relationship between cities with little intercourse (of the economic/social kind) between them.
MSAs and CSAs are determined based on economic and social interaction between their constituent parts, not on any cultural affinities. So it is with nearby cities not in the same metropolitan area. Camp Pendelton's presence cuts down on what would probably have been robust intercourse between LA and SD, for the two metropolises would have grown towards each other.
I could say that KC and Omaha are culturally similar, and I probably wouldn't be that far off the mark. But they're separated by 200 miles of farmland with a smaller city in between them as well. So they're not really related, even though KC's American League baseball team bases its AAA affiliate in Omaha and the two shared an NBA franchise for a while.
San Diego-Tijuana, El Paso-Juarez, Laredo-Nuevo Laredo and Brownsville-Matamoros are for all intents and purposes a single metropolitan area, like Minneapolis-St. Paul, Portland-Vancouver (WA), Dallas-Fort Worth, the two Kansas Cities and Buffalo-Fort Erie/the two Niagara Fallses.
Geographical proximity does matter, for it's that overlapping in physical space that makes the relationship a "relationship rather than a pair of cities that are culturally similar. There's less of a relationship between cities with little intercourse (of the economic/social kind) between them.
People will go into all kinds of contortions to explain how San Francisco and San Jose are one contiguous area while ignoring the fact that San Diego and Tijuana are literally backed up against each other.
People will go into all kinds of contortions to explain how San Francisco and San Jose are one contiguous area while ignoring the fact that San Diego and Tijuana are literally backed up against each other.
And if you go by where the border checkpoints are, San Diego is in mexico.
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