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Old 11-25-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Basing a city's "importance" on how urban it is is extremely subjective. The love affair with "the more dense the better" is what leads to the very things so many decry; unaffordability, homelessness, and "lack of affordable housing", yet cling to it with a vice-like grip, learning nothing from places like San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. Just sayin'........
I think its a pretty decent metric.

The cities that get attention for having the worst "city problems" if you will are still overwhelmingly the same places that interest and inspire people.

"OMG, we went to San Francisco we saw X, Y, and Z right out in the street...it's getting sooo bad there!"

Ok, well then why do you keep using your vacation days to go there year after year....these things aren't exactly new news. I hear Fort Worth and Raleigh are really nice, clean boom towns!

Oh, you don't want to use vacation time to go there?

Exactly.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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The Bay Area has a higher metro GDP than Chicago now. Traffic at three primary Bay Area airports could surpass Midway + O'Hare in the 2020s.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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The Bay Area has a higher metro GDP than Chicago now. Traffic at three primary Bay Area airports could surpass Midway + O'Hare in the 2020s.
The Bay Area has had a larger GDP than Chicagoland for the last decade or two now lol.

It's 3 interlinked major cities vs. 1 boarder-line mega city, it was inevitable.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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The Bay Area has a higher metro GDP than Chicago now. Traffic at three primary Bay Area airports could surpass Midway + O'Hare in the 2020s.
CSA’s are not metropolitian areas
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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The Bay Area has had a larger GDP than Chicagoland for the last decade or two now lol.

It's 3 interlinked major cities vs. 1 boarder-line mega city, it was inevitable.
People on city data pull ideas from far and wide in an attempt to downplay Chicago.
Chicago must be a thread to a lot people since I see a lot of ridiculous (and unformed) posts.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The Bay Area has the 3rd largest economy but as far as relevance and importance, the Bay Area economy is probably 1st at this time, just look at market cap numbers from Wall Street as well as any ranking of global brands-The Bay Area dominates global consciousness and is the biggest driver of the global economy at this time(let's keep this 100).

This notion that anyone here sits around trying to downplay Chicago or anywhere else for that matter is laughable(nobody cares) as we outgrew Chicago a long time ago and our real competition isnt even in the US but rather foreign rivals like Beijing, Shenzhen and Bengaluru, cities at the forefront lf global tech innovation.

Instead people bend over backwards to downplay the Bay Area because they just refuse to acknowledge facts.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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People on city data pull ideas from far and wide in an attempt to downplay Chicago.
Chicago must be a thread to a lot people since I see a lot of ridiculous (and unformed) posts.
It's not a downplaying Chicago in any way.

Between San Francisco, Oakland & San Jose theres a shade under 7 million people and their combined GDP is neighborhood of $900 billion, meanwhile Chicago is hovering around $700 billion

The Bay Area region is more economically dominate than Chicagoland, but not as individual cities.
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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The Bay Area has the 3rd largest economy but as far as relevance and importance, the Bay Area economy is probably 1st at this time, just look at market cap numbers from Wall Street as well as any ranking of global brands-The Bay Area dominates global consciousness and is the biggest driver of the global economy at this time(let's keep this 100).

This notion that anyone here sits around trying to downplay Chicago or anywhere else for that matter is laughable(nobody cares) as we outgrew Chicago a long time ago and our real competition isnt even in the US but rather foreign rivals like Beijing, Shenzhen and Bengaluru, cities at the forefront lf global tech innovation.

Instead people bend over backwards to downplay the Bay Area because they just refuse to acknowledge facts.
..... No

The Bay Area is not more influential nor does it have the geo-political relevance that the DC-Baltimore region or Tri-state area have due to the nature of their economies.

The only relevance market cap has is reflecting the equity value of a given company. That can and in many cases is mutually exclusive to how important they are to the real world economy as global market cap is highly volatile. Tariffs, strength of the U.S. currency, trading at multiples etc.. influence them.

DC's actions dictate the global political, economical and military climate on a daily basis so thats a ridiculously hard sales pitch you are pitching. Why anyone even has to argue NYC's merits is beyond me. If Wall Street were to go down tomorrow, the entire global financial system would go up in flames with it and the planet would kiss goodbye to first world living standards for the next several decades.

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: New York City
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The Bay Area has the 3rd largest economy but as far as relevance and importance, the Bay Area economy is probably 1st at this time, just look at market cap numbers from Wall Street as well as any ranking of global brands-The Bay Area dominates global consciousness and is the biggest driver of the global economy at this time(let's keep this 100).

This notion that anyone here sits around trying to downplay Chicago or anywhere else for that matter is laughable(nobody cares) as we outgrew Chicago a long time ago and our real competition isnt even in the US but rather foreign rivals like Beijing, Shenzhen and Bengaluru, cities at the forefront lf global tech innovation.

Instead people bend over backwards to downplay the Bay Area because they just refuse to acknowledge facts.
uhhh, New York? Really?...
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago 'burbs
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Regarding economies

you cannot just compare numbers, you need to compare the chain industries (services vs. goods producing) in each metro

for example:
Toyota (net worth @ $236 billion) is far more important than Facebook (net worth @ $566 billion)

Toyota supports many industries, all the way to raw materials.

Facebook supports what? Face recognition, 10 yr challenge, few offices here and there
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