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I feel like Charlotte comes together better as one cohesive city since Tampa is so spread out. Both have bright futures ahead and I’m not sure who’s better though I’d lean towards Tampa. I think Florida is the better run state, but that can always change. Also, I know a lot of the financial companies from NYC have relocated to South Florida lately. It seems like Charlotte should have been able to lure them in so perhaps a missed opportunity there and possibly indicative of the future.
Exactly, St Petersburg took about half of Tampa's population with it.
I feel like Charlotte comes together better as one cohesive city since Tampa is so spread out. Both have bright futures ahead and I’m not sure who’s better though I’d lean towards Tampa. I think Florida is the better run state, but that can always change. Also, I know a lot of the financial companies from NYC have relocated to South Florida lately. It seems like Charlotte should have been able to lure them in so perhaps a missed opportunity there and possibly indicative of the future.
Charlotte is over 300 square miles. It currently takes 26 minutes to get from downtown Tampa to downtown St Pete, and 27 minutes to get from the mall on the south end of Charlotte to the mall on the north end of Charlotte.
The only difference is Charlotte is built up in the core, vs Tampa which has a smaller core and more edge cities (not including St Pete). Charlotte is known to be one of the least dense metros. Rock Hill to Kannapolis is the same distance as St Pete to Lakeland - difference being Rock Hill and Kpolis are both in Charlottes metro, and Lakeland is technically not in Tampa's (says the Bureau). Even if you used Spring Hill, which somehow is in Tampa's metro, it's still a shorter distance than R Hill to Kpolis.
Not knocking Charlotte, but calling Tampa "so spread out" in comparison to Charlotte is just , especially considering Tampa is the smaller, denser, and more built out city.
Charlotte is over 300 square miles. It currently takes 26 minutes to get from downtown Tampa to downtown St Pete, and 27 minutes to get from the mall on the south end of Charlotte to the mall on the north end of Charlotte.
The only difference is Charlotte is built up in the core, vs Tampa which has a smaller core and more edge cities (not including St Pete). Charlotte is known to be one of the least dense metros. Rock Hill to Kannapolis is the same distance as St Pete to Lakeland - difference being Rock Hill and Kpolis are both in Charlottes metro, and Lakeland is technically not in Tampa's (says the Bureau). Even if you used Spring Hill, which somehow is in Tampa's metro, it's still a shorter distance than R Hill to Kpolis.
Not knocking Charlotte, but calling Tampa "so spread out" in comparison to Charlotte is just , especially considering Tampa is the smaller, denser, and more built out city.
Does it even have a smaller core?? Maybe less tall buildings I guess? But otherwise, that's debatable, as Tampa includes Channelside and Ybor within the core too... Tampa gets severely underrated in these forums.
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Does it even have a smaller core?? Maybe less tall buildings I guess? But otherwise, that's debatable, as Tampa includes Channelside and Ybor within the core too... Tampa gets severely underrated in these forums.
When I think of the core, I think of the square of the river, Selmon, 275, Nebraska. But sure I guess Ybor, UT, and especially Channelside can be included. Harbor Island too.
But point being, most of the action in Charlotte is happening in Uptown, while Tampa has more spread around action. New highrise developments currently being built in Tampa ~4, 7, and 8 miles from downtown. In Charlotte they would be going in Uptown with the rest of the highrises.
Charlotte is over 300 square miles. It currently takes 26 minutes to get from downtown Tampa to downtown St Pete, and 27 minutes to get from the mall on the south end of Charlotte to the mall on the north end of Charlotte.
The only difference is Charlotte is built up in the core, vs Tampa which has a smaller core and more edge cities (not including St Pete). Charlotte is known to be one of the least dense metros. Rock Hill to Kannapolis is the same distance as St Pete to Lakeland - difference being Rock Hill and Kpolis are both in Charlottes metro, and Lakeland is technically not in Tampa's (says the Bureau). Even if you used Spring Hill, which somehow is in Tampa's metro, it's still a shorter distance than R Hill to Kpolis.
Not knocking Charlotte, but calling Tampa "so spread out" in comparison to Charlotte is just , especially considering Tampa is the smaller, denser, and more built out city.
It’s spread out in a sense that there are 4 competing business districts. If you ever stand at the top of the parking garage at Tampa International Airport and look back at the city it actually looks big at that angle since you can see Westshore BD and downtown in the background. If everything were together you’d have a pretty big city on your hands, but it’s just very decentralized.
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Does it even have a smaller core?? Maybe less tall buildings I guess? But otherwise, that's debatable, as Tampa includes Channelside and Ybor within the core too... Tampa gets severely underrated in these forums.
Having lived and worked there for many years, I don’t think you can count Channelside as part of the downtown core. There are still a few vacant (parking) lots and the Selmon seperating the main downtown core and Channelside. Eventually they’ll merge, but not yet. Ybor is totally separate. The UT area is more debatable. The river definitely makes it feel like it’s separate, but it really isn’t. Further, I know it’s been said that the river may may the center of downtown in the future. Eventually downtown and Westshore may merge too via development along Cypress, but that will be awhile.
When I think of the core, I think of the square of the river, Selmon, 275, Nebraska. But sure I guess Ybor, UT, and especially Channelside can be included. Harbor Island too.
But point being, most of the action in Charlotte is happening in Uptown, while Tampa has more spread around action. New highrise developments currently being built in Tampa ~4, 7, and 8 miles from downtown. In Charlotte they would be going in Uptown with the rest of the highrises.
Everyone seems to forget about Southpark which is the 2nd largest business district in the state and has a smaller skyline of its own about 7 miles from Uptown. There is also Ballantyne that also has its own skyline and at one time the neighborhood had considered leaving Charlotte and becoming its own incorporated city. University is also its own business district and SouthEnd while it is close to uptown is its own service district akin to downtown/Midtown in Atlanta.
When I think of the core, I think of the square of the river, Selmon, 275, Nebraska. But sure I guess Ybor, UT, and especially Channelside can be included. Harbor Island too.
But point being, most of the action in Charlotte is happening in Uptown, while Tampa has more spread around action. New highrise developments currently being built in Tampa ~4, 7, and 8 miles from downtown. In Charlotte they would be going in Uptown with the rest of the highrises.
This is starting to change. Charlotte is building taller buildings outside of Uptown in pretty much all directions these days. South End has changed the most, essentially become a southward extension of Uptown. To the east of Uptown, there are plans to go taller in Midtown and Dilworth (and here). More suburban neighborhoods are growing up and densifying also.
Pre-pandemic, this was planned but I think it was put on hold and could be scrapped due to the pandemic, but it would be nice to see it come back in some form.
It’s spread out in a sense that there are 4 competing business districts. If you ever stand at the top of the parking garage at Tampa International Airport and look back at the city it actually looks big at that angle since you can see Westshore BD and downtown in the background. If everything were together you’d have a pretty big city on your hands, but it’s just very decentralized.
Well sure, yeah in that way its more spread out. Thats what I said earlier. I havent been to the TPA garage, but I know the exact view youre talking about. But in terms of growth and development nah.
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Everyone seems to forget about Southpark which is the 2nd largest business district in the state and has a smaller skyline of its own about 7 miles from Uptown. There is also Ballantyne that also has its own skyline and at one time the neighborhood had considered leaving Charlotte and becoming its own incorporated city. University is also its own business district and SouthEnd while it is close to uptown is its own service district akin to downtown/Midtown in Atlanta.
No, I didn't forget. You dont have highrises going up in Ballantyne like you do in Uptown, which is my point.
People wonder why Tampa's skyline is "small" for its size. Its a combination of St Pete across the bay and the business clusters being more apart, whereas in Charlotte the majority of the action is crammed right in and around Uptown. Tampa's NFL team is not in the core either, unlike Charlotte.
I'm aware Charlotte also has edge cities, I frequent all these places you named, but Charlottes main focus and crown jewel always has been and will be Uptown and the area around it, whereas Tampa the focus is more the water. Charlotte seems to want Uptown to Manhattanize as much as possible, whereas Tampa doesnt care how sparkly downtown gets, as long as everything around it gets pimped out.
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This is starting to change. Charlotte is building taller buildings outside of Uptown in pretty much all directions these days..
Ive seen it live.
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, especially considering Tampa is the smaller, denser, and more built out city.
