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View Poll Results: Texas city with most economic upside
Austin 56 33.53%
Dallas 82 49.10%
Houston 29 17.37%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-03-2020, 01:41 AM
 
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Nice boosterism but still doesn't change the fact that transplants eschew DT Dallas for the suburbs to build those massive corporate campuses that is only 10-15 minutes from employees' single-family homes. That and schools was the reason Toyota located in Legacy instead of something more urban somewhere in Dallas County.
To be fair, it seems that all the auto HQs locate their corporate offices to the suburbs. Nissan went to suburban Nashville, Mercedes is in suburban Atlanta, Volkswagen is in NoVA, etc. But in general, I have noticed that a lot of corporate HQs that go to DFW seem to land in Plano in particular.
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Old 06-03-2020, 03:05 AM
 
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Dallas
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Old 06-03-2020, 04:27 AM
 
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Nice boosterism but still doesn't change the fact that transplants eschew DT Dallas for the suburbs to build those massive corporate campuses that is only 10-15 minutes from employees' single-family homes. That and schools was the reason Toyota located in Legacy instead of something more urban somewhere in Dallas County.

Houston just had a massive mid-rise boom, i.e. office buildings, during the '10s. The Dallas (not including Uptown) skyline hasn't changed during that decade.
Like usual, you don't know diddly crap about Dallas and just spew out nonsense and fake news whenever the topic of Dallas city vs. its suburbs come up.

I know this is hard for you to understand but growth can occur in BOTH areas and at various speeds. It's not an either-or thing. It is a solid fact that BOTH Downtown/Uptown/Adjacent Neighborhoods and the suburbs have been growing. They're growing for different reasons but they've been growing. Period. End of story. You write nonsense like "Downtown Dallas is dying or the Uptown skyline hasn't changed during the 10's." Dude, quit the lies. Uptown & Victory Park have changed considerably since 2010.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Yeah, Dallas hasn’t changed at all....


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Old 06-03-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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To be fair, it seems that all the auto HQs locate their corporate offices to the suburbs.
GM says "Hi!!!"

But as far as why many (not all) auto companies locate to the suburbs, there are a couple reasons:

1. Management in automotive tends to be quite conservative and thus they seek an environment that will appeal to their more traditional ideals of how America should be (I.E. suburbia).

2. Logistically, auto companies want to be in close proximity to their assembly plants as well as the facilities for their suppliers for efficient collaboration, which (for a number of reasons) locate on the edge of urban areas or even rural small towns within driving distance of urban areas.

It has little to do with the overall health/desirability of any one urban core

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Old 06-03-2020, 06:37 AM
 
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That is not what he said at all.
You guys are reacting but not listening.

He said that most of these corporate relocations end up in the burbs
That is not opinion it is fact and I don't see how that can be seen as derogatory as that is by no means a unique situation as the same thing is happening all over.

He also mentioned that the Dallas skyline hasn't changed in 10 years which is also true. He never said that downtown is dying. How did you get that from his post? You totally changed what he said. He went out of his way in the most simplest terms to state that uptown is an exception to that and you somehow took that to mean the uptown skyline hasn't changed?

What's going on? Did you guys read the post? There is defending your city and there is just flat out boosting. If you are not even listening to what he is saying but just pumping up Dallas you all know which one you are doing right?
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:40 AM
 
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Nice boosterism but still doesn't change the fact that transplants eschew DT Dallas for the suburbs to build those massive corporate campuses that is only 10-15 minutes from employees' single-family homes. That and schools was the reason Toyota located in Legacy instead of something more urban somewhere in Dallas County.

Houston just had a massive mid-rise boom, i.e. office buildings, during the '10s. The Dallas (not including Uptown) skyline hasn't changed during that decade.
What does changes in the skyline have to do with the health of a city?
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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That is not what he said at all.
You guys are reacting but not listening.

He said that most of these corporate relocations end up in the burbs
That is not opinion it is fact and I don't see how that can be seen as derogatory as that is by no means a unique situation as the same thing is happening all over.

He also mentioned that the Dallas skyline hasn't changed in 10 years which is also true. He never said that downtown is dying. How did you get that from his post? You totally changed what he said. He went out of his way in the most simplest terms to state that uptown is an exception to that and you somehow took that to mean the uptown skyline hasn't changed?

What's going on? Did you guys read the post? There is defending your city and there is just flat out boosting. If you are not even listening to what he is saying but just pumping up Dallas you all know which one you are doing right?
To say it has changed at all is still a lie. There have been multiple highrises that have went up in Downtown.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:46 AM
 
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GM says "Hi!!!"

But as far as why many (not all) auto companies locate to the suburbs, there are a couple reasons:

1. Management in automotive tends to be quite conservative and thus they seek an environment that will appeal to their more traditional ideals of how America should be (I.E. suburbia).

2. Logistically, auto companies want to be in close proximity to their assembly plants as well as the facilities for their suppliers for efficient collaboration, which (for a number of reasons) locate on the edge of urban areas or even rural small towns within driving distance of urban areas.

It has little to do with the overall health/desirability of any one urban core
I was mainly referring to those automakers that have relocated their corporate offices in recent years, e.g. the non-American companies. I'm glad that GM has bucked that overall trend though.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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All of that said, as far as the poll choices, I selected Dallas.

The wild card for Houston will be what happens with Oil. There are definitely more head winds this decade than last.
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