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My personal opinion is Dallas or Boston. I voted Dallas because I am more partial to it (and, having spent a lot of time in New Hampshire, I do not feel a "strong enough" connection between Manchester and Boston). I did not bother commenting earlier because it clearly has the largest GDP and population* (in this case, is pulling ahead of the rest/catching up to Boston if you do go by CSA*), which is enough for me, but I am aware many people do not feel is, which has been discussed many times without changing anyone's opinion. Perhaps a lot of other voters for Dallas felt the same and didn't felt the need or didn't care enough to debate what factors are the most important.
Sea-Tac is a moderate-sized international airport...not a SF or Vancouver, but pretty good. A major International Arrivals expansion is underway to address a choke point we apparently share.
February overseas traffic was very similar...about 195,000 per city. That doesn't count the Americas, where Houston had a big advantage.
August was different...about 290,000 for Houston and 400,000 for Seattle.
It’s important to remember that international travel to Seattle has a huge seasonal component to it. Houston’s really isn’t season at all. We typically see that in tourist travel. Seattle gets tourist. Houston really doesn’t.
(and, having spent a lot of time in New Hampshire, I do not feel a "strong enough" connection between Manchester and Boston)
A good post for the most part. Dallas has a very strong argument for #6. This part is a bit bizarre, however. Manchester is such a teeny-tiny blip on the national radar, that its relationship to Boston doesn’t effect the importance of the latter at all.
Or did you just want to point out a lack of loyalty to or personal preference for Boston relative to Dallas?
My personal opinion is Dallas or Boston. I voted Dallas because I am more partial to it (and, having spent a lot of time in New Hampshire, I do not feel a "strong enough" connection between Manchester and Boston). I did not bother commenting earlier because it clearly has the largest GDP and population* (in this case, is pulling ahead of the rest/catching up to Boston if you do go by CSA*), which is enough for me, but I am aware many people do not feel is, which has been discussed many times without changing anyone's opinion. Perhaps a lot of other voters for Dallas felt the same and didn't felt the need or didn't care enough to debate what factors are the most important.
I was in Manchester for work have half a year and saw a strong connection to Boston. Tons of people were flying in/out of MHT both from suburbs in between the two and from Boston and I saw numerous folks driving to Boston to fly out of Logan. The few people I knew there ventured into Boston every now and then to shop and for entertainment purposes. From my experience, Boston was the "big city" in the area, providing the most retail and cultural options that the surrounding areas visited to partake in. I took alot of ubers between the two and I remember asking the driver if this was common and he mentioned that trips between the two were fairly common.
Cosby’s from Philly, I think. Sandler’s from Manchester, NH iirc. Otherwise good list. As I mentioned in a way earlier post, however, having lots of actors and comedians doesn’t do as much for the brand as having musicians, tv shows, and movies (imo).
'Twasn't me who posted that list.
I know Cosby's a Philly guy - I can even name the neighborhood where he grew up: Hunting Park. (There's a street here bearing the same name; it passes the park of that name and is a local stop on the Broad Street Subway. Locals insist on attaching a "don" onto the end of "Hunting" when pronouncing it. What makes this more confusing is that there is also a Huntingdon Street here, in the section of North Philadelphia where the east-west streets bear the names of the state's counties, Huntingdon being one of those.)
I've never done something I vowed I'd do when I moved here 37 years ago: replicate one of the plays in his standup monologue "Street Football." The play was this:
"Cosby, you go down to 3rd Street. Catch the J bus. Have 'em open the doors at 18th Street. I'll fake it to you."
(I can catch the J bus six blocks east of where I live. I'd have to ride it for several blocks before I got to 18th Street, let alone 3rd.)
Edited to add: But since you mentioned TV shows, musicians and movies, here's a quick, dirty and incomplete rundown of what I know that's associated with each city:
Atlanta
TV and movies: CNN, anything from Tyler Perry, Real Housewives of Atlanta
Musicians: No names spring to my mind (though I thought I heard recently that Beyoncé hails from the ATL), but it's the center of Southern hip-hop; I'm sure others can name artists
Boston
TV and movies: St. Elsewhere, Boston Legal, Love Story, Cheers
Musicians: Boston, The Cars, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Yo-Yo Ma, The Boston Pops, John Williams
Dallas
TV and movies: Dallas (the ur-prime-time soap opera), North Dallas Forty
Musicians: ???
Houston
Nothing in either category comes to mind right off
Miami
TV and movies: Miami Vice, The Golden Girls
Musicians: Gloria Estefan (Miami Sound Machine)
Philadelphia
TV and movies: Witness, 12 Monkeys, Philadelphia, anything from M. Night Shyamalan, Silver Linings Playbook, Cold Case, Hack, Amen, thirtysomething, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Musicians: Hall and Oates, "TSOP" ("The Sound of Philadelphia," which was to '70s R&B what Motown was to '60s R&B), John Coltrane, Todd Rundgren, The Hooters, Philadelphia Orchestra, Marian Anderson
Seattle
TV and movies: Here Come the Brides, Frasier
Musicians: Nirvana, grunge rock in general
Please, folks, feel free to add on and fill in holes.
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My personal opinion is Dallas or Boston. I voted Dallas because I am more partial to it (and, having spent a lot of time in New Hampshire, I do not feel a "strong enough" connection between Manchester and Boston). I did not bother commenting earlier because it clearly has the largest GDP and population* (in this case, is pulling ahead of the rest/catching up to Boston if you do go by CSA*), which is enough for me, but I am aware many people do not feel is, which has been discussed many times without changing anyone's opinion. Perhaps a lot of other voters for Dallas felt the same and didn't felt the need or didn't care enough to debate what factors are the most important.
No one think Manchester/Boston lol. Its Boston/Cambridge/Worcester/Providence.
I was in Manchester for work have half a year and saw a strong connection to Boston. Tons of people were flying in/out of MHT both from suburbs in between the two and from Boston and I saw numerous folks driving to Boston to fly out of Logan. The few people I knew there ventured into Boston every now and then to shop and for entertainment purposes. From my experience, Boston was the "big city" in the area, providing the most retail and cultural options that the surrounding areas visited to partake in. I took alot of ubers between the two and I remember asking the driver if this was common and he mentioned that trips between the two were fairly common.
Manchester is super far, it might be a regional airport for people in the northern burbs but travel between Manchester and Boston proper? I’ve never really heard of that unless you’re coming in from the airport. Boston’s got the international flight. Manchester is definitely very much its own thing but Boston is obviously a draw. The one person I know from Manchester says it sucks.
I wonder which one has the most international pax, BOS, SEA, or Philly?
It’s important to remember that includes connections. It’s not a measure of people flying to Houston, Atlanta, DFW, Miami, etc only.
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