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View Poll Results: Which is better?
Northern Virginia 28 53.85%
Silicon Valley 24 46.15%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-21-2020, 07:57 AM
 
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Nope. Here is the latest data from bea.gov

2018 Per Capita Income by County
San Mateo, CA $126,392
Santa Clara, CA $107,877

Arlington, VA $95,198
Loudoun, VA $78,070
Alexandria, VA $88,008
Fairfax, VA $82,441
Prince William $54,740
Fine, but that doesn't account for the fact that COL is much higher in SV than NoVA.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:02 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Fine, but that doesn't account for the fact that COL is much higher in SV than NoVA.
Well, the odd part is that so much of what you say is simply incorrect or poorly argued. Or you make statements that are incorrect to argue something, but if the basis on which you're arguing is incorrect then it makes the whole argument bunk. It's almost like you're just spinning out stuff without much knowledge, but not self-aware enough to realize you've got a pattern of doing so and might need to check yourself.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Also never heard of anyone saying government jobs are fast paced and that innovation is slow paced. Now that's new.

And since when is it not a common ice breaker question outside of DMV/NoVA to ask someone what he does for a living?
Industries themselves aren't fast-paced or slow-paced, but workplace culture can play a role. The pace of a place has more to do with urban layout, walkability, the prevelance of transit, etc. and the big tech companies of SV seem to embrace a more casual vibe and a better work/live balance which could translate into a more relaxed pace.
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Not the case. Here is the latest data from bea.gov

2018 Per Capita Income by County
San Mateo, CA $126,392
Santa Clara, CA $107,877

Arlington, VA $95,198
Loudoun, VA $78,070
Alexandria, VA $88,008
Fairfax, VA $82,441
Prince William $54,740
This does little to expose the fact of more powerful/influential people living in NOVA. The directors of almost every major federal agency you can name live there.
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Old 05-21-2020, 12:47 PM
 
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Industries themselves aren't fast-paced or slow-paced, but workplace culture can play a role. The pace of a place has more to do with urban layout, walkability, the prevelance of transit, etc. and the big tech companies of SV seem to embrace a more casual vibe and a better work/live balance which could translate into a more relaxed pace.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just a fast paced guy, but I love the urban, transit oriented life, the crowds on a city street, and still don't see how any of that is more fast paced than a Bay Area rush hour car commute.
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Old 05-21-2020, 12:59 PM
 
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There's maybe some similarities, but there's also a lot of differences. Irvine's a lot more entrepreneurial and immigrant-heavy than NoVA, and in that, it's a lot like SV and non-beach city Orange County and South Bay are really similar in a lot of ways. NoVA and the DMV region is kind of in its own world due to the heavy federal presence and the kind of career ladders they have. Much of NoVA's like from a different family than Irvine while some of South Bay is like Irvine's more dynamic cousins.
Yeah but I don't care about start ups too much, would rather work for a defense contractor. Not crazy for the OC beaches either, give me some winter snow and hot humid summers, and a solid transit system like the D.C. Metro instead of a Fiasco like BART.
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Old 05-21-2020, 02:00 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yeah but I don't care about start ups too much, would rather work for a defense contractor. Not crazy for the OC beaches either, give me some winter snow and hot humid summers, and a solid transit system like the D.C. Metro instead of a Fiasco like BART.
It's certainly understandable to have preferences, but it would be good if you actually had the facts right in the first place. I don't particularly like SV either because the housing prices are ridiculous and I prefer much more urban places.

There are plenty of jobs in SV that are not with startups. You don't have to work for startups and plenty of people in SV do not. There's also a question of whether you're hirable in the first place.

BART actually isn't yet in Santa Clara County, though it's about to open its first extension into SV this summer (pretty terrible timing!). Supposedly there's another phase where they actually tunnel down and get into downtown San Jose, though I'll believe it when I see it. One thing that is underway is the electrification of Caltrain which should improve trip times and allow for greater frequency. Of course, none of this is as good as what NOVA has, though obviously still better transit than what the vast majority of US cities provide.

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Old 05-21-2020, 02:04 PM
 
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For all the talk about how Silicon Valley is so expensive, it also leads the U.S. in having the most disposable income. It's truly a playground of wealthy people who can afford to live the lifestyle the Bay Area COL demands as well as to have fun on the side.
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Old 05-21-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I'd pick NOVA simply because Silicon Valley is the most overpriced place on earth; $1,200+ per square foot for mind numbingly dull post war suburbia. Outside of tech jobs the only thing redeeming about the place is its proximity to others areas (SF, Oakland, Santa Cruz, etc..)
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Old 05-21-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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I'd pick NOVA simply because Silicon Valley is the most overpriced place on earth; $1,200+ per square foot for mind numbingly dull post war suburbia. Outside of tech jobs the only thing redeeming about the place is its proximity to others areas (SF, Oakland, Santa Cruz, etc..)
But honestly the proximity to those areas are the selling point to some degree too. D.C. is an impressive metro but it's no Bay Area.
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