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View Poll Results: Which city has more Southern influence?
Baltimore 83 84.69%
Chicago 15 15.31%
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Old 06-19-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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Black Baltimore's accent is closest to Philly/Delaware/South Jerz, but still unique in it's own right. I agree it would be considered more southern influenced than Chicago, but it's not a classic city in the South.
Baltimore, DC and to a lesser extent, Richmond stick out like sore thumbs when compared to the rest of the South.
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Old 06-19-2020, 04:56 PM
 
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Baltimore, DC and to a lesser extent, Richmond stick out like sore thumbs when compared to the rest of the South.
Maryland/DC was always a border region, the Southern dialect/accent map is a line cutting right through the middle of that area, and the further you move away from it you hear the difference in either direction. Maryland has more Catholics than most (non-Hispanic) major enclaves in the Southern states.

Richmond is more southern than both by a good margin, but there are some similarities to Baltimore and DC.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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Black people in Chicago have more of a stereotypical southern accent than Baltimore. I don't know where the hell our (Baltimore) accent came from. It doesn't sound like anywhere else, not even it's closest neighbors DC and Philly.
Baltimore's accent is from the Tidewater family, I thought you knew that, bruh? The Delmarva region is all derived from the same dialect family...

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Black Baltimore's accent is closest to Philly/Delaware/South Jerz, but still unique in it's own right. I agree the overall culture would be considered more southern influenced than Chicago, but it's not a classic city in the South.
Baltimore is a Tidewater/Chesapeake accent with northern influence...

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Maryland/DC was always a border region, the Southern dialect/accent map is a line cutting right through the middle of that area, and the further you move away from it you hear the difference in either direction. Maryland has more Catholics than most (non-Hispanic) major enclaves in the Southern states.

Richmond is more southern than both by a good margin, but there are some similarities to Baltimore and DC.
The "good margin" of southern-ness between Rich and DC or Bmore is mostly attributable to the fact Rich is significantly smaller, so parts of its older, initial history are more noticeable than in the cosmopolitan major cities to its north. At the root Rich is not and never was demonstrably more southern than either; there's a gradient on most cultural observations so Rich is definitely more southern than both, but I have said for years the "margin" is vastly overstated on this board...
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:24 PM
 
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Baltimore, DC and to a lesser extent, Richmond stick out like sore thumbs when compared to the rest of the South.
They really aren't all that far removed from accents found further south. And I find it hilarious how folks from DC, PG, and Baltimore think district/county boundaries are like Berlin Walls with absolutely zero cultural diffusion occurring. Tell them that they are way more culturally alike than different and they wanna break out the machetes.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:48 PM
 
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Baltimore's accent is from the Tidewater family, I thought you knew that, bruh? The Delmarva region is all derived from the same dialect family...



Baltimore is a Tidewater/Chesapeake accent with northern influence...



The "good margin" of southern-ness between Rich and DC or Bmore is mostly attributable to the fact Rich is significantly smaller, so parts of its older, initial history are more noticeable than in the cosmopolitan major cities to its north. At the root Rich is not and never was demonstrably more southern than either; there's a gradient on most cultural observations so Rich is definitely more southern than both, but I have said for years the "margin" is vastly overstated on this board...
The accents white Baltimoreans are a derivative of the Tidewater accent, but I didn't know OUR accents were. I can't really put my finger on any place that black Baltimorean accent sounds like. The DC accent sounds kinda like Hampton Roads. For example, AI, and especially Mike Vick have accents that strikingly resembles a DC accent. Black people from the southern portion of the Eastern Shore have a very noticable tidewater accent as well.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:55 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Baltimore's accent is from the Tidewater family, I thought you knew that, bruh? The Delmarva region is all derived from the same dialect family...



Baltimore is a Tidewater/Chesapeake accent with northern influence...



The "good margin" of southern-ness between Rich and DC or Bmore is mostly attributable to the fact Rich is significantly smaller, so parts of its older, initial history are more noticeable than in the cosmopolitan major cities to its north. At the root Rich is not and never was demonstrably more southern than either; there's a gradient on most cultural observations so Rich is definitely more southern than both, but I have said for years the "margin" is vastly overstated on this board...
Baltimore-DC-Richmond, is a cluster. I've long acknowledged that the entire region is more like itself in some ways than it is other parts of the country. However EACH have their own separate nuances to them. Baltimore to me, at least in the "black accent" is a mix of Tidewater, with what I hear from Blacks from the Delaware Valley. One has to have a trained ear to even understand that though.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:58 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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The accents white Baltimoreans are a derivative of the Tidewater accent, but I didn't know OUR accents were. I can't really put my finger on any place that black Baltimorean accent sounds like. The DC accent sounds kinda like Hampton Roads. For example, AI, and especially Mike Vick have accents that strikingly resembles a DC accent. Black people from the southern portion of the Eastern Shore have a very noticable tidewater accent as well.
I think DC and Tidewater (some times) sound more similar, even more than Richmond does to DC. I knew a girl from Petersburg, and she was straight up country in accent to me. Sounded like she was from West Virginia. DC and Baltimore overall still sound very "East Coast" ish, but with a slight twang than further North.
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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They really aren't all that far removed from accents found further south. And I find it hilarious how folks from DC, PG, and Baltimore think district/county boundaries are like Berlin Walls with absolutely zero cultural diffusion occurring. Tell them that they are way more culturally alike than different and they wanna break out the machetes.
I'll be honest, I tested that theory out myself and noticed that the accents change rapidly. I think that It had more to do with which city's sphere of influence one falls under. Going south, once you hit Laurel, you here the DC area accent. If you drive 10 minutes north, you'll get more of a Baltimore area accent.
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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I think DC and Tidewater (some times) sound more similar, even more than Richmond does to DC. I knew a girl from Petersburg, and she was straight up country in accent to me. Sounded like she was from West Virginia. DC and Baltimore overall still sound very "East Coast" ish, but with a slight twang than further North.
I noticed the same thing. Black people in Richmond pronounce certain words like DC "car," for example, but the Hamptons Roads accent has more similarities.
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:17 PM
 
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Baltimore-DC-Richmond, is a cluster. I've long acknowledged that the entire region is more like itself in some ways than it is other parts of the country. However EACH have their own separate nuances to them. Baltimore to me, at least in the "black accent" is a mix of Tidewater, with what I hear from Blacks from the Delaware Valley. One has to have a trained ear to even understand that though.
Your ears are definitely more trained than mine then. I don't hear the Delaware Valley aspect.

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