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Uptown is probably the true center of the denser part of Houston but it's very close to a large park and lower density mansions, which will throw of the tools. Gulfton is still very close to said park so Sharpstown has the best overall numbers.
I'm not surprised. Sometimes LA can be depicted as the second 2nd most dense large city from a purely statistical standpoint. Its just that LA is not that dense in a traditional urban sense leading (due to LA autocentric and architectural attributes for example) to the overwhelming well reasonably supported subjective views of LA's lack of urbanity.
I lived back east and quite familiar with those cities. LA looks different architecturally but it's quite dense and urban in the 50 square miles we're talking about.
Those 960,000 people live somewhere within those boundaries.
I would say Boston is number 5, its just not ahead of Philadelphia or San Francisco.
Added this chart because this is relevant to this discussion.
Here’s what you’re missing. This thread doesn’t say city limits. Picking an area code in back bay allows Boston to exclude its least dense areas (West Roxbury) and include Cambridge, Somerville, other high density urban suburbs. For purposes of this thread I’d say your graph depicting only city limits is even more misleading than Boston shudras tool.
If you start from a radius that makes sense in Los Angeles like 90005 (Koreatown), you get 960,000 which puts L.A. behind NYC (where it belongs) with Chicago a pretty distant third. If someone doesn’t think that is fair, we still get over 900,000 from 90017 (DTLA).
Actually, Los Angeles is a very distant number two and much closer to Chicago in this metric than it is to New York.
4) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
5) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
6) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
7) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 20005)
8) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
9) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
10) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
Seattle zip code 98103 has 410,000 so that would.put it at number 8, above Baltimore. But I think a lot of these could have zip codes that are more optimal.
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I would say Boston is number 5, its just not ahead of Philadelphia or San Francisco.
Added this chart because this is relevant to this discussion.
What year is that data from? If it's 2010 or even one of the ACS 5-year rolling averages, Seattle is going to look very different now. In 2010 Seattle had 608K people for an average density of 7,200 ppsm. In 2020 in has 775K for an average density of 9,200 ppsm. I'd be curious what the chart would look like now.
Welp though Boston Sudra was bringing real days but maybe he’s another East coaster that doesn’t like Seattle? Lived in both Seattle and Denver. Seattle felt denser all around
Basically Boston Shudra's method is a bunch of BS and easily manipulated by whichever zipcode you pick, especially in cities with large bodies of water.
I'm still laughing that he is here arguing with a straight face that Seattle has about the same 50 sq mi urban mass as Milwaukee.
then just pick whatever zip code you want really. But I get it- density/settlement isnt only circular.
I would say Boston is number 5, its just not ahead of Philadelphia or San Francisco.
Added this chart because this is relevant to this discussion.
That chart makes sense but when you take the 50 square miles around downtown Bostons core that number will go up some. You'd have to include the cities to the north of downtown. I could see either city winning on various metrics cs but i do agree I feel Philly has a more urban 50 square miles. Boston has cooler bridges, tunnels, skywalks etc but Philly residentially/structurally is tough to top.
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