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1. New York
2. Chicago
3. San Francisco
4t: Philadelphia
4t: Boston
6. Los Angeles
7. Washington DC
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10. Baltimore
By 300sq mile around the core:
1. New York
2. Chicago
3. Los Angeles
4. San Francisco
5. Philadelphia
6. Boston
7. Washington DC
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10. Baltimore or Denver, not too sure.
Even if you jump straight across the water JC is as densely populated as it gets and it's definitely not suburban. You have to go about 10 miles north of JC to get dense suburban areas directly across the water from NYC. But in the case of Jersey City you can easily jump straight across to pick up these contiguous urban square miles and from there it goes on and on into a mass of urbanity.
Yea in reference to JC you’re only “jumping across” the Hudson a very short distance.
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I was just using the link he gave me.
Those are MSA numbers.
Boston's core 50sqmi is still more dense/urban right now- no matter how you slice it. Day and night. A higher share of the buildings its currently building are multi unit. Lack of developable land is an issue in Boston because its already very dense.
Also much of DC's MSA construction would be outside of that 50 square mile area.
When or if DC passes Boston then it does, until then-it just hasnt.
Did you see the first link I posted? That was multi-family units being added by city proper. The second link I posted was total apartment units in 2018 by MSA. You said that Boston crushes DC in apartments. The point I made was that in the link posted about housing stock is old for all these cities, but especially by DC standards which is adding apartments at a higher rate.
Did you see the first link I posted? That was multi-family units being added by city proper. The second link I posted was total apartment units in 2018 by MSA. You said that Boston crushes DC in apartments. The point I made was that in the link posted about housing stock is old for all these cities, but especially by DC standards which is adding apartments at a higher rate.
Well isnt DC's land area larger?
If you add in any neighboring town group like Cambridge+Somerville or Revere+Chelsea+Everett, or Quincy+Milton, or Newton+Brookline, or Waltham+Watertown, or Dedham+Needham.. it will be an even playing field.
Or those numbers should be divided by the land area (Sqmi) of the city's footprint. Il calculate those later and see who really is throwing out the most units per square miles (Which is the point of the post)
Did you see the first link I posted? That was multi-family units being added by city proper. The second link I posted was total apartment units in 2018 by MSA. You said that Boston crushes DC in apartments. The point I made was that in the link posted about housing stock is old for all these cities, but especially by DC standards which is adding apartments at a higher rate.
It had a paywall. Everything our saying is about development though. Boston is still just ahead of DC here as of now. I don't see how that's controversial.
Boston literally has 940k people in DC's land area. Why is this even a debate is what I'm saying? really. Were talking a gap of 230k people.
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Boston is 695k, 48sq mi
Cambridge is 119k, 6 square miles
Somerville is 81k, 4 square miles
Chelsea is 42k, 2 square miles
Everett is 14k in 1 sqaure mile
Thats 951k people in 61 square miles compared to 704k in DCs 61 square miles.
Resident, I'm speaking from the perspective of having trvaeld to many nooks and crannies of both cities. Boston is currently like noticeably more urban. I gave 3500 uber rides in the DMV...its not as close as you perceive it to be if you think DC is just as urban or more urban.
Especially when you take out the two southern most neighborhoods West Roxbury and Hyde Park and get it down to like 54 square miles. The density is like 19.5kppsqmi.
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It had a paywall. Everything our saying is about development though. Boston is still just ahead of DC here as of now. I don't see how that's controversial.
Boston literally has 940k people in DC's land area. Why is this even a debate is what I'm saying? really. Were talking a gap of 230k people.
It doesn't really work that way though since you are adding areas outside of Boston proper that are more built up to reach 61 sq mi. That's like if I shifted the radius from DC's center and excluded DC East of the Anacostia River, then added the more densely populated Arlington/Alexandria, and the border cities of Silver Spring, Bethesda to reach 900k-1 million in 61 or so sq mi. I mean yea technically an uneven line could be drawn to encompass that amount of of people, but that ain't how the game is played.
It doesn't really work that way though since you are adding areas outside of Boston proper that are more built up to reach 61 sq mi. That's like if I shifted the radius from DC's center and excluded DC East of the Anacostia River, then added the more densely populated Arlington/Alexandria, and the border cities of Silver Spring, Bethesda to reach 900k-1 million in 61 or so sq mi. I mean yea technically an uneven line could be drawn to encompass that amount of of people, but that ain't how the game is played.
Unbelievable. You’re so dense on this.
If there’s anyway to point to DC being more urban/dense than Boston that doesn’t include projecting as to how many units DC is building vs Boston please feel free.
Until then Boston and the Core of Boston. If you’re looking for the densest 50 square miles is like significantly ahead of DC.
I don’t have to shift the radius for Boston to be more dense than DC.
Cambridge isn’t Boston but it’s obviously the core of the urban area. Honestly you’re just being difficult.
By your logic Boston is excluded entirely because it’s not 50 square miles. As I’ve said I’ve given 3.5k trips all over the DMV to try to say it’s urban core is like Boston’s just don’t true. Full stop. Anecdotally and empirically.
This is the “Mecca mentality” “capitol conundrum” on full display.
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