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I just thought upstate was defined as anything not in NYC/Long Island.
NYC/Long Island, yes, but also the Hudson Valley. Directly north of the Bronx is Westchester county. That and about 6 more counties make up the Hudson Valley. Everything north of this area is generally considered Upstate. However some people even consider it to be Upstate even though it's really not. Interestingly enough Wikipedia shows the Hudson Valley as including the Capital district and those 4 counties north of the Hudson Valley. I've never considered the Albany region to be the Hudson Valley. I've always considered that Upstate.
Buffalo and, arguably, Rochester are Western NY (Rochester is more specifically Finger Lakes).
Albany is the Capital Region.
The lower Hudson Valley is most definitely not Upstate, except to people in NY City and Long Island - the rest of the state laughs at them for that incorrect usage. Any place where a significant proportion of people are regularly commuting into NY City is definitely Downstate.
That may be a very happening place, but would people outside of NY think of this?
I voted "Buffalo" mainly because of its proximity with Niagara Falls, which is a place many people outside of NY associate with NY other than New York City.
Buffalo is the highest profile city in upstate. But, Syracuse is probably the most representative city. It's the geographic center of the state. Has proximity to the Great Lakes and Finger lakes of the west and the mountains of eastern NY.
I went to school in NYC with lots of friends from "Upstate New York"---almost always referring to Albany/Troy region up to around Lake George.
Buffalo was just "Buffalo" don't think I've ever heard it referred to as Upstate.
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See my response to BigCity76.
