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Downtown matters and my opinion stands. Rhode Island is better because you have a few downtowns to choose from. Jacksonville suffers from little to no street activity and low density development. It is interesting that Providence and Jacksonville are very comparable in crime.
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Originally Posted by Hollytree
Don't come to RI though if you really can't afford it, because our low income neighborhoods are as bad as Jax's low income neighborhoods and you don't want to be in either.
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade
I feel like people are downplaying how rough RI can be and how nice JAX can be.
That being said Rhode Island is more varied in attractions/culture/history. Having looked up Jacksonville some. JAX offers a better COL.
I'd say it's a tie. Two pretty evenly matched areas.
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Crime is bad in Providence, but it has more redeeming qualities that still make it a nice place.
Poverty, Schools and infrastructure/housing is pretty bad. But last year the city had like 35/36 shootings. Many years Providence has a had a lower crime rate than Boston. But you will find many QOL issues like open air prostitution, addiction and some blight. For all of 2018 only 819 violent crimes were reported in Providence.
It’s worth noting none of these issues play out downtown nor are they city wide. But they re prevalent especially on the south side and to a lesser extent, the north side.
“Overall crime in Providence – and the rest of the United States – peaked in the early 1990s and has been on the decline ever since. Among comparably sized cities in New England, Providence had the fewest violent crimes in 2018.”
Providence really doesn’t have the violent crime or gang culture even that inner city Boston has so if you can handle Boston Providence should be fine.
Providence is gritty and mostly working class or poor. But it has some nice neighborhoods, excellent location, mind blowing diversity, beautiful downtown, very reasonable crime, loads of character great nightlife,, arts and food scenes. And a wonderful fully occupied mall downtown.
Jacksonville crime is FAR worse than Providence (never mind RI as a whole), in fact Jacksonville is one of the most statistically dangerous cities in the country last I looked. The distinction there couldn't be clearer. I agree that the two places are NOTHING alike (save for maybe the Atlantic Ocean and a share a of good ole boy politics in each), and both areas have a large PR and white blue-collar population. That's pretty much it.
Jacksonville crime is FAR worse than Providence (never mind RI as a whole), in fact Jacksonville is one of the most statistically dangerous cities in the country last I looked. The distinction there couldn't be clearer. I agree that the two places are NOTHING alike (save for maybe the Atlantic Ocean and a share a of good ole boy politics in each), and both areas have a large PR and white blue-collar population. That's pretty much it.
Yea, maybe Fort Lauderdale is a better comparison to Providence in the Miami-Boston relation?
Jacksonville crime is FAR worse than Providence (never mind RI as a whole), in fact Jacksonville is one of the most statistically dangerous cities in the country last I looked. The distinction there couldn't be clearer. I agree that the two places are NOTHING alike (save for maybe the Atlantic Ocean and a share a of good ole boy politics in each), and both areas have a large PR and white blue-collar population. That's pretty much it.
And like most cities, the areas where crime is concentrated are places where the average resident has no business being in. The majority of people aren't impacted.
And like most cities, the areas where crime is concentrated are places where the average resident has no business being in. The majority of people aren't impacted.
Yes and no. When visiting Jacksonville I feel like I have to watch my back even in the "so so" areas, which isn't the case in RI. Just a lot more random type stuff going on down there, more sketchy types.
Yes and no. When visiting Jacksonville I feel like I have to watch my back even in the "so so" areas, which isn't the case in RI. Just a lot more random type stuff going on down there, more sketchy types.
I don't see it myself, and I'm pretty familiar with the area. I also think it's overall a much friendlier place than Providence. It's not as insular, they're used to steady growth and new people cycling in.
I don't see it myself, and I'm pretty familiar with the area. I also think it's overall a much friendlier place than Providence. It's not as insular, they're used to steady growth and new people cycling in.
Meh. People seem pretty indifferent there overall, as with much of FL. Of course different people's experiences vary though.
I don't see it myself, and I'm pretty familiar with the area. I also think it's overall a much friendlier place than Providence. It's not as insular, they're used to steady growth and new people cycling in.
Is Providence really unfriendly? It's insular yea, but I really wouldn't say unfriendly-no.
The insularity is more because of the economics and small size, this intern affects politics-but not because the people are mean. I find Rhode Islanders pretty talkative and more neighborly than people in the rest of New England at least.
Maybe it's the Italian, Lusophone and Hispanic population (42% of the state is Italian/Portuguese or Hispanic) influence.
These groups are stereotypically very family and community-oriented populations that are pretty friendly/expressive once you're in the loop. Big stereotype though.
Combine this with the negligible BlackAmerican or Mexican populations/culture, relatively high west African/southeast Asian populations, high catholic percentage, diminutive land area, extreme old money, lack of college sports/professional sports teams and you get a state that is one of the most unique and 'foreign' ones in the country. There's honestly not a ton of cultural crossover with 'mainstream America' like in Florida. Not even any early primaries or swing politics. As a result, I'm sure it feels pretty alien and unwelcoming to folks from far away. But to me, I love how you can just get immersed in layers of Rhode Island. Like your own little world.
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