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View Poll Results: Which is the top northeastern U.S. suburb?
Westchester County (Bronxville, Scarsdale, Rye, Larchmont) 17 12.78%
Main Line (Gladwyne, Villanova, Merion Station, Bryn Mawr, Haverford) 22 16.54%
Western Boston Suburbs (Newton, Wellesley, Dover, Weston) 24 18.05%
DC's MD Suburbs (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, Potomac) 11 8.27%
DC's VA Suburbs (McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, Tyson's) 10 7.52%
North Shore, Long Island (Great Neck, Oyster Bay, Old Westbury) 10 7.52%
Gold Coast, CT (Greenwich, Darien, New Canaan) 39 29.32%
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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My entire family is from Brooklyn. New Yorkers think everyone is southern/country if you aren't from the Tri-State area (excluding Boston). So i get that you think people from DC sound southern. People from the DMV think you all are some bammas! You have never been to Chicago but you are commenting that its like the NE? Boston and Chicago look nothing alike. Boston is very compact. In fact, Chicago on the northside looks a lot like parts of DC. On the southside, Chicago looks nothing like any east coast city. It looks like the suburbs. The further you drive south, it's similar to Detroit or Minneapolis. Miles and miles of strip malls and surface parking lots. It's the tale of two cities.
I’m really commenting on DC and Boston and what I’ve heard of Chicago from Chicagoans and people who’ve lived there and in Boston. I’m aware that it’s bungalows and suburban. I don’t think Boston and Chicago look alike at all. But from what I’ve seen and heard of the social studies and governance structure in Chicago’s northern and western suburbs. It’s seems very similar to what I’m familiar with in Boston. I’ve lived in Maryland for some years now. It’s pretty different than CT (went to college there) Boston, and NJ (there all the time).similarities for sure but personnel didn’t say anything untrue either
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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They already know. A zip code is not a good indication because it can be tiny. 100 households can live in a single zip code.
There are more than 100 households in Gladwyne and Villanova. Villanova has a University that is quite large.

It is a fact. The DMV has not one of the top 50 zip codes in the nation. That is all.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The DMV has no zip codes because. Has few to no pockets of EXTREME WEALTH. It has vast areas of broad wealth at a more moderate level than $1m+. Capped governmental/military salaries will do that to ya.

But with the pockets of extreme wealth comes a certain prestige. But I think the DC region is extremely prestigious just not individual burbs.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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Boston doesn’t look like Philly or DC on the ground. In some places it looks like NYC. Outer neighborhoods of Boston and Baltimore have similar colonial type detached architecture. DC Bmore and Philly look very alike with the rowhomes. Chicago’s downtown is more approximate of NYC and Philly. Boston is the only one without a large street grid. But it’s downtowns has more NYC and Philly like areas than DC or Bmore.

You can find a good deal of surface lots in NYC Philly and Boston, that’s for sure. Just not in the core.

Looks are a bit arbitrary when it comes to these cities themselves. The difference in the suburbs is more obvious when it comes to DC vs the others though. Especially in NoVa.
This is all 100% accurate.

I think inner MD suburbs and coastal MD suburbs share a lot in common with the broader Northeast.

Nothing about NoVa, or the rest of VA feels northern. And clearly, that's more than OK... NoVA is doing just fine.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The DMV has no zip codes because. Has few to no pockets of EXTREME WEALTH. It has vast areas of broad wealth at a more moderate level than $1m+. Capped governmental/military salaries will do that to ya.

But with the pockets of extreme wealth comes a certain prestige. But I think the DC region is extremely prestigious just not individual burbs.
Well and accurately said.

Government contracting jobs pay well. But only cap so much. There is not a great deal of Old Money in the DC Metro.

Old Money metros are: NYC, BOS, PHL, CHI and a mix with Miami and then obviously extreme wealth is in LA and SF with big tech and Hollywood.

DC has wealth, for sure. But not the old money wealth of the legacy metros, nor the ultra wealth from tech and glam that you see in LA and SF.

Which all those metros are in the top 50. Not the DMV.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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I’m really commenting on DC and Boston and what I’ve heard of Chicago from Chicagoans and people who’ve lived there and in Boston. I’m aware that it’s bungalows and suburban. I don’t think Boston and Chicago look alike at all. But from what I’ve seen and heard of the social studies and governance structure in Chicago’s northern and western suburbs. It’s seems very similar to what I’m familiar with in Boston. I’ve lived in Maryland for some years now. It’s pretty different than CT (went to college there) Boston, and NJ (there all the time).similarities for sure but personnel didn’t say anything untrue either

Most Chicagoans have a passive/aggressive, love/hatred thing for New York. Keep that in mind as you continue your journey on this board. LOL
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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We go through this month after month. Some of these zip codes have populations less than 1,000 people. Per capita is always a better indication of wealth. DC has 5 of the top ten. Something ridiculous like that. I would put Potomac and McLean up against any burb in Philly/Chicago/Boston.
Don't put them up against Kenilworth, Winnetka or Glencoe in Chicago, you will lose every time. Even Hinsdale outranks Potomac, but not McLean.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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The DMV has no zip codes because. Has few to no pockets of EXTREME WEALTH. It has vast areas of broad wealth at a more moderate level than $1m+. Capped governmental/military salaries will do that to ya.

But with the pockets of extreme wealth comes a certain prestige. But I think the DC region is extremely prestigious just not individual burbs.
This has already been discussed ad nauseum with DC's finest before. We did a breakdown of Northern NJ extreme wealth vs. NoVa extreme wealth on an old NJ vs. VA thread. It wasn't really that close.

Be it NJ, CT, Westchester, MA.. The pockets of extreme wealth are, factually, stronger and more pronounced. On the whole, or in looking at counties, this of course flips in part because all counties in areas around NYC and Boston also have legacy cities and pockets of extreme socioeconomic diversity.

As it relates to this thread, we've already laid out the pockets of extreme wealth in area like Chicago, Westchester, Greater Boston. NoVa doesn't really have "an answer" to those pockets.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The DMV has no zip codes because. Has few to no pockets of EXTREME WEALTH. It has vast areas of broad wealth at a more moderate level than $1m+. Capped governmental/military salaries will do that to ya.

But with the pockets of extreme wealth comes a certain prestige. But I think the DC region is extremely prestigious just not individual burbs.

I think part of it's the new money vs. old money dichotomy. I think of Vanguard, State Street, and Blackrock as the greatest 'old' money institutions of our age. My analogy for DC would be Capital One.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Don't put them up against Kenilworth, Winnetka or Glencoe in Chicago, you will lose every time. Even Hinsdale outranks Potomac, but not McLean.
It's a petty conversation that I, in large part, started with my census data.

But they just don't seem to understand the type of concentrated, willlddd money that exists in Chicago's North Shore, or CT Gold Coast, or Boston's MetroWest, or the Main Line, or Northern NJ.
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