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View Poll Results: Which is more like New York?
Pennsylvania 128 77.58%
New England 37 22.42%
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Is religious diversity still more more pronounced in PA than New England and is that a real factor n 2020?

Today most of southern New England is by far and a way more thin ally and racially diverse than Pennsylvania. That’s not even debatable.

Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia is somewhere between Rhode Island(71% white) and New Hampshire(89% white) diversity wise. I do think NY probably has more religious diversity and is more racially diverse for sure.

Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia. lol

That is like saying. Massachusetts outside of Boston. The separation is mind boggling. You cannot separate the most diverse areas, and say. Well they do not count. lol

Diversity in rural America overall, except the deep south is quite small. There is almost no diversity in upstate NY.

In terms of Urban America. There is much more similar diversity with NY and PA than NY and NE.

So many immigrants are moving to Philadelphia from NYC, because NY is too expensive. As is NE.

Here is a fun article to read on it. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/n...mmigrants.html

Pennsylvania has a much larger Asian population than NE and more similar to NY.

It also has a very strong growing Indian population, especially in the Harrisburg metro. (which is a mid size metro).
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Everything except Albion and Lewiston looks like Western/Northern Massachusetts to a tee. Albion looks more Pittsburghy.

Lewiston could be MA and id believe it
Apart from Albion, they could also fit in in Maine or Vermont as well.

That said, I think they'd fit fine in PA too. They're sort of the standard for Main St. towns for the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic. Some similar spots in PA:

Hawley: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4767...7i13312!8i6656

Lilitz: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568...7i16384!8i8192

Grove City: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1589...7i13312!8i6656

Downington:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0068...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia. lol

That is like saying. Massachusetts outside of Boston. The separation is mind boggling. You cannot separate the most diverse areas, and say. Well they do not count. lol

Diversity in rural America overall, except the deep south is quite small. There is almost no diversity in upstate NY.

In terms of Urban America. There is much more similar diversity with NY and PA than NY and NE.

So many immigrants are moving to Philadelphia from NYC, because NY is too expensive. As is NE.

Here is a fun article to read on it. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/n...mmigrants.html

Pennsylvania has a much larger Asian population than NE and more similar to NY.

It also has a very strong growing Indian population, especially in the Harrisburg metro. (which is a mid size metro).
Even with Philadelphia, it’s significantly less diverse than MA. Pennsylvania’s immigrant population pales compared to southern NE and is below NE as a whole. Compared to Connecticut?? lol.

Boston doesn’t impact the demographics of the state nearly as much as Philly does PA. Massachusetts without Boston is still more diverse than Pennsylvania WITH PHILLY

Do you really think PA is more diverse or demographically similar to NY? It’s not. This is objective. You are flat out wrong about the Asian thing. Despite PA having nearly 5 MILLION more people than MA. It has a smaller Asian population than MA (453k vs 470k). Let alone New England lol.

New England isn’t too expensive at all-Boston area, yes but the rest? No. Ever seen the pries in Pittsfield, Waterbury, Lewiston and Fall River??

But its not fair for me to only look at Southern New England... with Northern New England included its pretty much even.

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Old 12-08-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Apart from Albion, they could also fit in in Maine or Vermont as well.

That said, I think they'd fit fine in PA too. They're sort of the standard for Main St. towns for the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic. Some similar spots in PA:

Hawley: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4767...7i13312!8i6656

Lilitz: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568...7i16384!8i8192

Grove City: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1589...7i13312!8i6656

Downington:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0068...7i16384!8i8192
Hawley looked very PA. The rest I could see somewhere in VT or Western MA/NW CT and just about anywhere in NY
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Hawley looked very PA. The rest I could see somewhere in VT or Western MA/NW CT and just about anywhere in NY

This is Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2017...7i16384!8i8192

This is Litiz, Pennsylvania

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1570...7i16384!8i8192

Pennsylvania has a lot of early colonial architecture and history. It is not unique to New England whatsoever.

And historically the industrial centers of NY, were more connected than the industrial centers of Pennsylvania.

This street view is Corning, NY.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1436...7i13312!8i6656

It looks almost the same as anything you would find in a small Pennsylvania city.
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This is Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2017...7i16384!8i8192

This is Litiz, Pennsylvania

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1570...7i16384!8i8192

Pennsylvania has a lot of early colonial architecture and history. It is not unique to New England whatsoever.

And historically the industrial centers of NY, were more connected than the industrial centers of Pennsylvania.

This street view is Corning, NY.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1436...7i13312!8i6656

It looks almost the same as anything you would find in a small Pennsylvania city.
Super similar
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:36 PM
 
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This is Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2017...7i16384!8i8192

This is Litiz, Pennsylvania

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1570...7i16384!8i8192

Pennsylvania has a lot of early colonial architecture and history. It is not unique to New England whatsoever.

And historically the industrial centers of NY, were more connected than the industrial centers of Pennsylvania.

This street view is Corning, NY.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1436...7i13312!8i6656

It looks almost the same as anything you would find in a small Pennsylvania city.



Which makes sense due to it being 20 minutes from the PA border.

Here is a street view of Glens Falls NY: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

It is about 40 minutes from the VT border and some may say that it fits in well with nearby communities in VT.

Another thing that is interesting with NY is that some schools take in students from adjacent states like VT(Salem in Washington Co. does) and PA(I believe that Hancock in Delaware Co. does). I've met someone who grew up in Sullivan Co. NY, but went to school in PA. so, you can even have crossover in terms of schooling.
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Which makes sense due to it being 20 minutes from the PA border.

Here is a street view of Glens Falls NY: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

It is about 40 minutes from the VT border and some may say that it fits in well with nearby communities in VT.

Another thing that is interesting with NY is that some schools take in students from adjacent states like VT(Salem in Washington Co. does) and PA(I believe that Hancock in Delaware Co. does). I've met someone who grew up in Sullivan Co. NY, but went to school in PA. so, you can even have crossover in terms of schooling.

Glen Falls, NY (which is beautiful btw).

Looks really not that much different than Lancaster, PA

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0381...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0378...7i16384!8i8192

West Chester, PA does not look too different either.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9604...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Glen Falls, NY (which is beautiful btw).

Looks really not that much different than Lancaster, PA

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0381...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0378...7i16384!8i8192
Agreed. I'd say it has more in common with Lancaster than anything in VT, but I can still see the parallels with VT too. Which was sort of the point I was trying to make earlier - there's a lot of overlap between PA, NY, and New England in terms of styles even though there are some significant differences.
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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This is. Gettysburg, Pennsylvania

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8309...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8308...7i13312!8i6656

It looks almost just like Glen Falls, NY.

I think a lot of people in NE, forget that Pennsylvania is very historic and has just as much colonial era architecture as NE on a whole overall.

Here is a google street view of Burlington, VT

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4758...7i16384!8i8192

It looks no different than Lancaster, PA

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0407...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0405...7i16384!8i8192

I think Pennsylvania is underrepresented by many who are not familiar, that is has a lot of colonial architecture.

NY, PA and NE, all have a similar style.

NY and NE perhaps have a bit more wood colonial. Where brick and stone predominate Pennsylvania.

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