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Similar to Pennsylvania, the countryside of New York features more rolling farmland and open vistas. Contrarily, most of New England is heavily forested. IMO, this is the most noticeable difference.
Similar to Pennsylvania, the countryside of New York features more rolling farmland and open vistas. Contrarily, most of New England is heavily forested. IMO, this is the most noticeable difference.
And the three northern states make up about 75% of the region's land area (with Maine alone being ~50%). If my calculations and the wiki stats are correct, then all of New England is about 79.6% forested on average.
So I agree with Bert that this is a pretty noticeable difference between the two. However, it's worth noting that the three southern states are 55-60ish % forested, so more in line with the state averages for PA and NY.
And the three northern states make up about 75% of the region's land area (with Maine alone being ~50%). If my calculations and the wiki stats are correct, then all of New England is about 79.6% forested on average.
So I agree with Bert that this is a pretty noticeable difference between the two. However, it's worth noting that the three southern states are 55-60ish % forested, so more in line with the state averages for PA and NY.
Mostly because they’re more densely settled though not even because of open land as much as NY and PA.
Pennsylvania, easily. Both states are vastly rural, conservative and rusty. New England is much more compact and cities and towns are less spread out, and it's much more liberal and less "country" cultured.
Pennsylvania, easily. Both states are vastly rural, conservative and rusty. New England is much more compact and cities and towns are less spread out, and it's much more liberal and less "country" cultured.
That's a bit of a stretch. Eastern Massachusetts and Southwestern Connecticut are the only areas of New England that I'd describe as densely settled on a large scale. That leaves a significant majority of the rest of the region with a much more rural/rustic feel, with plenty of "country culture" outside of metro areas.
Interestingly, Mid-Atlantic cities are definitely structurally denser on average.
I'd also posit that New England is actually more conservative/traditional than it gets credit for, again especially outside of its metro areas. More likely to vote Democratic than most of the country and the most conservative parts of PA and NY? Certainly. But ideologically there's more diversity underneath the surface than the classic "Liberal Yankee" caricature would otherwise indicate. And I say this with a non-native Englander perspective.
That's a bit of a stretch. Eastern Massachusetts and Southwestern Connecticut are the only areas of New England that I'd describe as densely settled on a large scale. That leaves a significant majority of the rest of the region with a much more rural/rustic feel, with plenty of "country culture" outside of metro areas.
Interestingly, Mid-Atlantic cities are definitely structurally denser on average.
I'd also posit that New England is actually more conservative/traditional than it gets credit for, again especially outside of its metro areas. More likely to vote Democratic than most of the country and the most conservative parts of PA and NY? Certainly. But ideologically there's more diversity underneath the surface than the classic "Liberal Yankee" caricature would otherwise indicate. And I say this with a non-native Englander perspective.
By that perspective there no densely populated states except New Jersey? In Massachusetts you’re never more than 40 minutes from a densely populated city. You’re never more than maybe 25 minutes from a town center.. that’s not normal except for CT RI NJ MA. The four most densely populated states. Pennsylvania and New York are muuuuuch more rural.
I also don’t think there’s many places more liberal in any sense than MA besides CA and WA. whatever “conservatism” there is isn’t based on religion or even morality. It just comes down to QOL.
To say MA and CT and semi conservatives somewhat rural answer confront jive with the empirical data or the laws they have on the book. Even if a mid Atlantic City is structurally dense its probably lower to the ground in average building height and not as densely populated or maybe similarly densely populated. CT cities are especially dense.as are many small cities bordering Noston.
I put an inordinate amount of weight in southern NE because that’s where 75-80% of NE resides. Maybe that’s not fair or accurate.
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