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Old 03-27-2021, 11:09 PM
 
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Amazing it takes Chicago a day to achieve what takes 2.5 months in Vancouver.
Look up the Racial breakdown for Vancouver vs Chicago.... If Chicago had Vancouver's Black population at - 1% and those from Latin- America at - 1.6% of the population .... Chicago would still be similar in the murder rates..... Like Germany's non-Black numbers. Vancouver has a high Asian % also which is non-Black. Sad that US cities had to go though so much change over decades being such a large country to just boom other areas next outside of other cities and racial change still ongoing. Canada has far less and a immigration system by merit where desired skills with education is how you get in and they go mostly to Vancouver and Toronto it seems.
You are in Germany if I remember correctly and love American blight... worst the better and industrial abandoned areas BY STREET-VIEWS as entertaining. But please don't bring in the demolished Cabrini Green housing projects to this thread again as you did in some.


Anyway.... back to this thread now on murder rates even by RACE for insight into actual statistics.....
This link below is from 2016 and has a breakdown of murders and perpetrators by RACE and shooters.

We can also note again by statistics ...
Chicago by -‘ Race and ethnicity: (city-proper only)
- 33.3% European White; - 29% Black or African-American; - 28.7% Hispanic or Latino; - 6.6% Asian; - 2.4% all other racial identifications (this stat came from the Chicago City Budget link and 2018 stats)
Some stats that link all that are white including Hispanic Whites 45% - 50% for Chicago.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...ers-are-black/

So let see what it says from the link.

Title: Chicago: 75% of Murdered Are Black, 71% of Murderers Are Black.
Cities Black population % was 33% in 2010 and now 29%.

- 83.4% of deaths were from shootings, 6.7% stabbings, and 6.5% assaults. Of the 362 firearm homicides, 351 (97%) were from handguns. 77% of all homicide victims had a prior arrest history. Victims were 90% male.

Offenders by Race:
IN FACT - ONLY 3.4% OF THE OFFENDERS who murdered IN CHICAGO in 2016 WERE WHITE

Victims by Race:
IN FACT - ONLY 4.6% OF THE VICTIMS who were murdered IN CHICAGO in 2016 WERE WHITE

The data on offenders also tells a troubling story: Young, Black males are overwhelmingly committing most of the murders. Based on the data on the victims, that means, young Black males are primarily killing other young, Black males. So much gang on gang related in their vast majority same ethnicity neighborhoods of the City.

*None of the facts means one race is of less value as a human being.... still vs other Nation's cities without US cities ethnic challenges and immigration issues, also adding by whom most of the murders are committed by and upon whom by race ... these are some facts posted.

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Old 03-27-2021, 11:40 PM
 
Location: White Rock BC
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Canada's socio-economic equivalent of AA are our Indigenous people. They may up 3% of the populations by nearly a quarter of our prison population. Native populations are highest in the West which is, in part, the reason why the Western provinces {BC,Alb,Sask,***** have always had higher murder and crime rates than their Eastern Canadian peers. Many northern areas have very high levels of Native population which is why the northern areas of the big provinces and all of the Territories have MUCH higher crime rates than their southern peers.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:49 PM
 
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Canada's socio-economic equivalent of AA are our Indigenous people. They may up 3% of the populations by nearly a quarter of our prison population. Native populations are highest in the West which is, in part, the reason why the Western provinces {BC,Alb,Sask,***** have always had higher murder and crime rates than their Eastern Canadian peers. Many northern areas have very high levels of Native population which is why the northern areas of the big provinces and all of the Territories have MUCH higher crime rates than their southern peers.
Both Nations have Indigenous people not considered under the term Black and certainly, not included in the US under African-American. Under Vancouver stats - Aboriginal ethnicity % for Vancouver is listed at 2%.

Are not most in both Nation's Indigenous (in the US Native Americans also) outside of the large city metros? So not for this thread really on cities and their metros where US cities give generally the major city stats that have the high murder numbers and far more divided .... racially with these higher %s vs if a it is a whole metro.
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Old 03-28-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Upon research, it appears that Vancouver is amidst of an on and off gang war, one in which most recently resulted in 5 killed in a two weeks span between late December and mid January, and during yesteryears about 20 killed in a matter of 4-6 months. What murders Vancouver sees yearly appear to be mostly gang altercations, primarily between gangs consisting of mostly South Asian descent operating in a broad area known as the Lower Mainlands/South Vancouver. They do things like disrespect dead rivals in rap videos ( in Chiraq fashion) and are in control of drug turfs and the trade of illegal guns. It's kind of weird because at least from a streetview perspective Vancouver strikes me as a city that is thoroughly middle class and up.
You are lumping Vancouver stats with metro stats.

Vancouver averages about 20 murders a year. The metro area around 50.

There was a stabbing in District of North Vancouver yesterday, where a woman died. That stat would not be included in Vancouver stats, since North Vancouver City and North Vancouver District are different municipalities.

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Old 03-28-2021, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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6 people stabbed in Vancouver, 1 fatally
In the District of North Vancouver. Not Vancouver. Different jurisdiction. It can be included in Metro stats, but not Vancouver stats..

The City of North Vancouver is again, a different jurisdiction from the above

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Old 03-28-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Canada
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In North Vancouver. Not Vancouver. Different jurisdiction. It can be included in Metro stats, but not Vancouver stats.
Yep, when I realized it was North Vancouver it was already too late to edit
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Yep, when I realized it was North Vancouver it was already too late to edit
It usually isn't important, but when discussing city versus metro stats, it becomes so.

It was a horrible tragedy. One of the cops being interviewed had tears in his eyes because it is rare, especially in that area.
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Old 03-28-2021, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Uptown
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Chicago 2020 had many more murders than Puerto Rico, a US territory of 3.2 million that is poorer than Mississippi and straddle the fence of having third world poverty. Now that's alarming, although its big city, San Juan is technically the US city with the second or third highest murder rate among populations at 250k+.
This is a bit ironic. The PRicans used to be one of the most dangerous groups in Chicago back in the 60s-90s. But with more Mexicans taking the Latino title the homicides have slipped towards the black population.
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Columbus OH already has 45-50 homicides, on track easily for a record number of bodies this year.
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Old 03-28-2021, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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This is a bit ironic. The PRicans used to be one of the most dangerous groups in Chicago back in the 60s-90s. But with more Mexicans taking the Latino title the homicides have slipped towards the black population.
I was reading My Bloody Life: The Making of a Latin King, and it's an eye-opener in detailing the severity of gang violence and other social issues impacting the Puerto Rican community living in Humboldt Park/West Town and Logan Square during the 1970s and 80s. They even faced police brutality and profiling. The Puerto Rican struggle basically mirrored that of African-Americans in the inner city almost to a T. There were many bloody clashes with white gangs of that era on the northwest side, too. Even now, though violence in Chicago from the hispanic side gets overshadowed by the much greater number of black killings, it's still higher per capita than for hispanics in LA and NYC proper. 2020 Chicago saw 131 hispanic homicides.
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