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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-18-2022, 10:42 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Speaking of colleges/universities, I know that CUNY's Medgar Evers College in Brooklyn is predominantly black: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...190646#enrolmt
https://www.cuny.edu/schools/medgar-evers-college/
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6666...7i16384!8i8192

Are there any other 4 year schools that are or come close/pluralistically more so?
possibly York College in Queens? I believe it's plurality black but that may have changed in recent years. I have family who went to Medgar Evers, it and York College are NYC's closest things to an HBCU.
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Old 07-18-2022, 11:25 AM
 
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possibly York College in Queens? I believe it's plurality black but that may have changed in recent years. I have family who went to Medgar Evers, it and York College are NYC's closest things to an HBCU.
Here is some York College information: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...190691#enrolmt
https://www.york.cuny.edu/


There's of course the 2 HBCU's outside of Philadelphia, in terms of Lincoln and Cheyney as well. Lincoln: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...213598#enrolmt
https://www.lincoln.edu/

Cheyney: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...211608#enrolmt
https://cheyney.edu/

Any others?
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Old 07-24-2022, 06:51 PM
 
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Default In terms of percentages of family income of at least $75,000 or above

Hartford - 31.1%

Wilmington - 28.1%

Boston - 42.8%

Jersey City - 37.9%

Newark - 28.7%

NYC - 42.8%

Harrisburg - 21.3%

Philadelphia - 28.4%

Providence - 31.4%

Source: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19101B
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Old 07-30-2022, 03:17 PM
 
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Here is some York College information: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...190691#enrolmt
https://www.york.cuny.edu/


There's of course the 2 HBCU's outside of Philadelphia, in terms of Lincoln and Cheyney as well. Lincoln: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...213598#enrolmt
https://www.lincoln.edu/

Cheyney: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...211608#enrolmt
https://cheyney.edu/

Any others?
An institution in Boston: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...165884#enrolmt
https://www.bfit.edu/

In Bloomfield NJ: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...183822#enrolmt
https://bloomfield.edu/

In Belleville and Jersey City NJ: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...448354#enrolmt
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...421878#enrolmt
https://www.eicollege.edu/

In Morristown NJ: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...186618#enrolmt
https://www.steu.edu/

In Bridgeport CT: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...pg=2&id=128744
https://www.bridgeport.edu/

In NYC: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...190114#enrolmt
https://www.mcny.edu/

Bronx: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...193308#enrolmt
https://www.monroecollege.edu/

Queens: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...194499#enrolmt
https://www.plazacollege.edu/

In Philadelphia: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...214883#enrolmt
https://www.peirce.edu/

I believe that is it for those that are predominantly or pluralistically more black in student enrollment. There are quite a few institutions in the 20-40% range or so, with many in the 10-20% range as well.

I'd say out of the bigger/major colleges and universities in terms of size and that offer Division 1 Athletics in the Northeast, it looks like this SUNY university has the highest percentage at 21%: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...196060#enrolmt
https://www.albany.edu/
https://ualbanysports.com/
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Old 07-30-2022, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Here is some York College information: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...190691#enrolmt
https://www.york.cuny.edu/


There's of course the 2 HBCU's outside of Philadelphia, in terms of Lincoln and Cheyney as well. Lincoln: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...213598#enrolmt
https://www.lincoln.edu/

Cheyney: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...211608#enrolmt
https://cheyney.edu/

Any others?
LOL you answering your own question, but you've owned the stats department ever since this thread began, so no surprise that you did.

Historical followup, however: Cheyney University is the oldest HBCU in the country — it's the descendant of the Institute for Colored Youth, established in 1839 in Philadelphia as a school to train Black teachers.
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Old 08-01-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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LOL you answering your own question, but you've owned the stats department ever since this thread began, so no surprise that you did.

Historical followup, however: Cheyney University is the oldest HBCU in the country — it's the descendant of the Institute for Colored Youth, established in 1839 in Philadelphia as a school to train Black teachers.
Yeah, I knew about some, but I was wondering if there were some other lesser known colleges that some may know about.

Yes, I don't know if many people realize that the first HBCU actually was established in the Northeast. I believe that there was a push to get one in New Haven and there were other colleges that had substantial black(and female) student populations in the 1800's like NY Central College just outside of Cortland NY(about 30 minutes south of Syracuse), which also was the first college to a black professor in the United States and the college that the first black woman to possibly get a 4 year degree graduated from.

Then, you have this man that was the first black person to get a Bachelor's degree and was born in Vermont, with his father being a black man from Boston and being born there in 1765: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Twilight

So, there is a long history in terms of black education in the Northeast.
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Old 08-01-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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Here is some income information about some NYC suburbs: https://www.city-data.com/forum/63811173-post626.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/63819151-post629.html
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:41 AM
 
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Just thinking about the aspect of very black part of cities that still have a black middle class presence ala similar aspects like DC EOTR(as mentioned in other threads), there are areas such as SE Queens/much of Central, parts of South Brooklyn/NE, North Bronx in NYC; NW/adjacent parts of North and West Philadelphia; the Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan/Hyde Park/parts of Roslindale concentration in Boston; the North End/Blue Hills area of Hartford; the Weequahic/Clinton Hill/West Side/Vailsburg concentration in Newark; perhaps the Greenville section of Jersey City and likely portions of Harrisburg and Wilmington.

Some not on the list that come to mind are the East Side of Buffalo, from which east of Main Street/roughly north of-around Broadway(areas south of it just east of Downtown) and to the city line is probably about a third of the city's population and is about 80% black, give or take. Previously mentioned areas such as Hamlin Park, Kensington(/Bailey), University and the small portions of the Parkside and Central Park residential neighborhoods that are east of Main have a black middle class presence.

Rochester's SW Quadrant is probably about 70% black, give or take and includes the 19th Ward, which has some middle class folks in the Sibley Tract(near Wilson HS)/west of Thurston Road and around-south of Brooks Ave.

Pretty much the South Side/half of Mount Vernon NY is probably about 85% black, give or take, with middle class areas in the eastern portion like Vernon Heights/Parkside and Oakwood Heights.

I'll stop there, but there are others that likely have portions that are have high black percentages and a middle class presence within them.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:07 PM
 
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Just thinking about the aspect of very black part of cities that still have a black middle class presence ala similar aspects like DC EOTR(as mentioned in other threads), there are areas such as SE Queens/much of Central, parts of South Brooklyn/NE, North Bronx in NYC; NW/adjacent parts of North and West Philadelphia; the Roxbury/Dorchester/Mattapan/Hyde Park/parts of Roslindale concentration in Boston; the North End/Blue Hills area of Hartford; the Weequahic/Clinton Hill/West Side/Vailsburg concentration in Newark; perhaps the Greenville section of Jersey City and likely portions of Harrisburg and Wilmington.

Some not on the list that come to mind are the East Side of Buffalo, from which east of Main Street/roughly north of-around Broadway(areas south of it just east of Downtown) and to the city line is probably about a third of the city's population and is about 80% black, give or take. Previously mentioned areas such as Hamlin Park, Kensington(/Bailey), University and the small portions of the Parkside and Central Park residential neighborhoods that are east of Main have a black middle class presence.

Rochester's SW Quadrant is probably about 70% black, give or take and includes the 19th Ward, which has some middle class folks in the Sibley Tract(near Wilson HS)/west of Thurston Road and around-south of Brooks Ave.

Pretty much the South Side/half of Mount Vernon NY is probably about 85% black, give or take, with middle class areas in the eastern portion like Vernon Heights/Parkside and Oakwood Heights.

I'll stop there, but there are others that likely have portions that are have high black percentages and a middle class presence within them.
Living in Mt. Airy: A Neighborhood Guide | Philadelphia Magazine

MHI for its ZIP code, 2020: $73,671
ZIP code demographics: As of 2010, Blacks accounted for 50 to 70 percent of Mt. Airy's population. The figure I've seen for the racial split was 65/35 Black/white. Caveat: The neighborhood's lowest-income Census tract (MHI in 2020: $45,730) is 70-90% Black, while its highest-income one (MHI: $136,250) is 70-90% white.


Living in the Oak Lanes: A Neighborhood Guide | Philadelphia Magazine


MHI for East Oak Lane's most affluent Census tract, 2020: $75,990
Racial makeup of that Census tract: 70-90% Black

I haven't gotten around to doing one on Wynnefield yet, but here are its numbers:

MHI for Wynnefield's most affluent Census tract, 2020: $76,190
Racial makeup of that Census tract: 50-70% Black
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Old 09-07-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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Living in Mt. Airy: A Neighborhood Guide | Philadelphia Magazine

MHI for its ZIP code, 2020: $73,671
ZIP code demographics: As of 2010, Blacks accounted for 50 to 70 percent of Mt. Airy's population. The figure I've seen for the racial split was 65/35 Black/white. Caveat: The neighborhood's lowest-income Census tract (MHI in 2020: $45,730) is 70-90% Black, while its highest-income one (MHI: $136,250) is 70-90% white.


Living in the Oak Lanes: A Neighborhood Guide | Philadelphia Magazine


MHI for East Oak Lane's most affluent Census tract, 2020: $75,990
Racial makeup of that Census tract: 70-90% Black

I haven't gotten around to doing one on Wynnefield yet, but here are its numbers:

MHI for Wynnefield's most affluent Census tract, 2020: $76,190
Racial makeup of that Census tract: 50-70% Black
I'm not surprised and the sections these neighborhoods are in have similar percentages. I think this is more common than realized in terms of areas with a high black percentage actually having economic diversity or skewing towards middle class.

In Pittsburgh, Homewood and parts of the adjacent neighborhoods, even into Wilkinsburg are/can have tracts with percentages well into the 70's-low 90's.
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