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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-22-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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I knew New Rochelle was a fairly nice and relatively diverse suburban city, but I didn’t realize it was such a hotbed for Black affluence! That’s up there with the most upscale parts of Prince George’s County, I would think.
It has a mix, but there are areas of the city in its northern third/half or so that is very affluent and on par with adjacent Scarsdale. There is a decent black population in that area(about 11% or so). Wykagyl, Bonnie Crest, Bayberry, etc. are some of the neighborhoods in that part of town. A couple of census tracts in that area: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...estchester-ny/

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...estchester-ny/

I believe that this former American Express CEO lives in that area of town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Chenault

There are also other parts of the city just north of Downtown to the east and west of North Avenue that also has higher black percentages and with a good sized middle class.
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Old 12-02-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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In Boston, middle-class to wealthy blacks live where wealthy whites do. But with a concentration in the city and to the south.

For instance, immediately west of the city of Boston is the city of Newton MA has a median income of 150k and 88,000 people. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...560-newton-ma/ Its 3% non-Hispanic non mixed-race black. So about 2500 black people.

Brookline touches Newton and Brookline MA 59,000 people median income 117,000 3% black that's 1,700 black people. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-brookline-ma/

Medford MA- population 67k 9% black, median income 96k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...35-medford-ma/

Waltham MA- population 63k 7% black, median income 95k. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...00-waltham-ma/

Arlington MA-population 46k, 3% black, median income 108k. https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-arlington-ma/

Dedham MA-population 25k 7% black, median income 101k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...530-dedham-ma/

Avon MA- population 5k 18% black, median income 85k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Milton MA- population 28k, 15% black, median income 133k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...725-milton-ma/ (home to Deval Patrick)

Needham MA- population 31k, 3% black, median income 165k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...40-needham-ma/

Woburn MA-population 41k 5% black, median income 90k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...035-woburn-ma/

Norfolk MA- population 12k 6% black, median income 151k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Foxborough MA 17k population 6% black, median income 96k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Stoughton MA- population 28k, 15% black, median income 83k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Easton MA- population 25k 4% black, median income 112k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...tol-county-ma/

Bridgewater MA population 27k, 8% black median income 96k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...uth-county-ma/

Wilmington MA- population 23k 4% black , median income 123k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...wilmington-ma/

Canton MA population 23k, 6% black median income 106k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Randolph MA population 34k, 44% black median income 83k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...olk-county-ma/

Cambridge MA population 119k, 11% black, median income 120k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...sex-county-ma/

I think you'll find those suburbs compare favorably or at least evenly to Philadelphias. I only included places with median household incomes above the state average.

There are large numbers of middle-class black people throughout Roxbury (Fort Hill, Elm Hill areas) the South End (south of Mass Ave and North of Melnea Cass), Hyde Park, Jamaica Plain, Eastern Roslindale, Southern Dorchester and Southern Mattapan. I believe Black family median income in Boston is like ~76k.


West Roxbury, Boston MA- population 27k 6% black, median income 103k https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US02132-02132/

Roslindale, Boston, MA-population 34k, 23% black, median income 81k

Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA-population 40k, 11% black , median income 95k
The black median household and family for the suburban communities are...

Newton(2021 info), $70,080: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Newt...1Y2021.B19013B
and $71,232: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Newt...1Y2021.B19113B (Both are over $154,000 if using 2020 5 year info)

Brookline(2020 5 year info), $81,591: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Broo...5Y2020.B19013B
and $108,179: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Broo...5Y2020.B19113B

Medford(2020 5 year), $76,391: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Medf...5Y2020.B19013B
and $102,652: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Medf...5Y2020.B19113B

Waltham(2020 5 year), $68,590: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Walt...5Y2020.B19013B
and $65,587: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Walt...5Y2020.B19113B

Arlington(2020 5 year), $62,202: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Arli...5Y2020.B19013B
and $72,454: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Arli...5Y2020.B19113B

Dedham(2020 5 year), $85,054: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Dedh...5Y2020.B19013B
and not available: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Dedh...5Y2020.B19113B

Avon(2020 5 year), $66,083: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Avon...5Y2020.B19013B
and $61,071: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Avon...5Y2020.B19113B

Milton(2020), $106,298: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Milt...5Y2020.B19013B
and $140,078: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Milt...5Y2020.B19113B

Needham(2020), both are unavailable: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Need...5Y2020.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?q=Need...5Y2020.B19113B

Woburn(2020), $89,048: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Wobu...5Y2020.B19013B
and $93,804: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Wobu...5Y2020.B19113B

Norfolk(2020), both are unavailable: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Norf...5Y2020.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?q=Norf...5Y2020.B19113B

Foxborough(2020), $51,205: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Foxb...5Y2020.B19013B
and unavailable: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Foxb...5Y2020.B19113B

Stoughton(2020), $81,856: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Stou...5Y2020.B19013B
and $96,652: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Stou...5Y2020.B19113B

Easton(2020), $160,798: https://data.census.gov/table?q=East...5Y2020.B19013B
and $161,622: https://data.census.gov/table?q=East...5Y2020.B19113B

Bridgewater(2020), $66,439: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Brid...5Y2020.B19013B
and $99,931: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Brid...5Y2020.B19113B

Wilmington(2020), unavailable for both: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Wilm...5Y2020.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?q=Wilm...5Y2020.B19113B

Canton(2020), $73,393: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Cant...5Y2020.B19013B
and $170,914: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Cant...5Y2020.B19113B

Randolph(2020), $85,996: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Rand...5Y2020.B19013B
and $92,615: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Rand...5Y2020.B19113B

Cambridge(2020), $40,410: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Camb...5Y2020.B19013B
and $58,218: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Camb...5Y2020.B19113B

For West Roxbury(02132)(2020), $92,522: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19013B
and $95,670: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19113B

Roslindale(02131)(2020), $65,205: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19013B
and $68,310: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19113B

Jamaica Plain(02130)(2020), $64,973: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19013B
and $84,123: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19113B

I'll add, Hyde Park(02136)(2020, 43.4% black non Hispanic alone), $69,895: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19013B
and $79,236: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0213...5Y2020.B19113B

Mattapan(02126)(2020, 75.7% BNHA), $56,448: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19013B
and $62,351: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19113B

Dorchester(02121)(2020, 59.8% BNHA), $45,363: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19013B
and $54,332: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19113B

(02122)(2020, 27.2% BNHA), $55,567: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19013B
and $62,690: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19113B

Dorchester Center(02124)(2020, 52.2% BNHA), $53,852: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19013B
and $63,074: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0212...5Y2020.B19113B

Roxbury(02119)(2020, 49.1% BNHA), $35,250: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0211...5Y2020.B19013B
and $54,036: https://data.census.gov/table?q=0211...5Y2020.B19113B

A place not listed, Malden(2021, 15.7% BNHA), $105,022: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Mald...1Y2021.B19013B ($59,789-2020 5 year info)
and $105,141: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Mald...1Y2021.B19113B ($66,014-2020 5 year info)
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Old 12-06-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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If I'm not mistaken, but this is probably the most affluent predominantly black census block group in the region, if correct(in New Cassel NY on Long Island): https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...203-nassau-ny/

Some other block groups nearby: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...202-nassau-ny/ (New Cassel)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...203-nassau-ny/ (New Cassel)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...203-nassau-ny/ (New Cassel)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...203-nassau-ny/ (New Cassel)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...041-nassau-ny/ (Westbury)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...039-nassau-ny/ (Westbury)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...039-nassau-ny/ (Westbury)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...041-nassau-ny/ (Westbury)

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...189-nassau-ny/ (Hicksville)

All, except for the last block group are in the Westbury SD(last one is in the Hicksville SD primarily) and some likely go with private schools, such as those mentioned a few previous posts ago.
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:46 AM
 
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Using 2021 1 year information for Westchester County, the median household income figure is $77,064: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...1Y2021.B19013B
and the median family income figure is $112,848: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...1Y2021.B19113B

As you likely know, places/areas like northern and eastern Mount Vernon, western and northern New Rochelle, the town of Greenburgh(including the village of Elmsford and vicinity, the Parkway Homes/Parkway Gardens area, etc.); northern Peekskill, northern Pelham, parts of White Plains north and east of Downtown and the Runyan Heights neighborhood of Yonkers are some with quite substantial to predominantly black middle class areas in the county.

For Suffolk County, the household income is $94,675: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...1Y2021.B19013B
and family income figure is $113,101: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...1Y2021.B19113B

For Suffolk County, Wheatley Heights, the Belmont Park/northern West Babylon area, SE Deer Park, southern Greenlawn/western Elwood, Gordon Heights, SW Central Islip, parts of North Bellport, parts of North Amityville, parts of Sag Harbor and some other parts of the Hamptons are some examples in that county.
Here is a post from another thread with some related information about cities in Westchester County: https://www.city-data.com/forum/64561280-post785.html
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Old 01-03-2023, 08:42 AM
 
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I've mentioned this area before, but here is some information about the Parkway Homes portion of the Parkway Gardens/Parkway Homes neighborhood, a predominantly black/middle class area in the town of Greenburgh just north of White Plains NY and in the Valhalla SD: https://www.city-data.com/forum/64678471-post9.html

More: https://www.facebook.com/ParkwayHomesCivicAssociation
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Old 01-06-2023, 10:16 AM
 
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Given that there is information by school district here are some in the region related to median household and family incomes for black residents using 2021 5 year US Census information.

Baldwin SD, NY: $158,216 and $165,663: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
41.8% of district residents are black alone(46.8% inc. in combo/39.8% alone non-Hispanic): https://data.census.gov/table?q=bald...SDP5Y2021.DP05
Some school district report card: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049578
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049578

Malverne SD, NY: $152,092 and $151,304: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
28.3%(28.9% and 25.9%): https://data.census.gov/table?q=Malv...SDP5Y2021.DP05
Some school report card info: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049551
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049551

Cheltenham SD, PA: $82,917 and $96,006: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
35.8%(38.1% and 35.1%): https://data.census.gov/table?q=Chel...SDP5Y2021.DP05
Some school report card info: https://futurereadypa.org/District/F...45196060047123

Randolph SD, MA: $81,794 and $97,882: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
42.4%(46.5% and 40.9%): https://data.census.gov/table?q=Rand...SDP5Y2021.DP05
Some school report card info: https://reportcards.doe.mass.edu/202...tcard/02440000
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Old 01-09-2023, 11:30 AM
 
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An interesting school district in terms of income is the Valhalla SD north of NYC. It has a black median and family household income of $202,853: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Valh...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?q=Valh...5Y2021.B19113B
While the district is only roughly 8% black: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Valh...SDP5Y2021.DP05
It does have a predominantly black area by the name of Parkway Homes, shared with Parkway Gardens(Greenburgh Central SD) in the southern portion of the district close to White Plains: https://greenburghny.com/DocumentCen...dens-Community
Block group that covers most of that neighborhood within the school district: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...estchester-ny/
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Old 01-23-2023, 12:55 PM
 
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A couple of other school districts...Elmsford SD, NY: $123,836 and $134,899: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
25.6%(28.% and 23.8%): https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...SDP5Y2021.DP05
School report card: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000035494

Union Township SD, NJ: $109,336 and $117,944: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
35.3%(37.4% and 34.9%): https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
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