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View Poll Results: Pittsburgh: is more northeastern, midwestern, or appalachian?
Midwestern 5 6.02%
Northeastern 29 34.94%
Appalachian 17 20.48%
Roughly equal parts of all three 32 38.55%
None of the above 0 0%
Not sure/can't tell 0 0%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-05-2021, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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It's not Midwestern, despite its visual similarities to Cincinnati and economic similarities to Cleveland. Like Buffalo, it's in a Northeastern state but not much of a Northeastern city. I'd say it's one of the few truly Appalachian cities in America, even if demographically it's not what people consider "Appalachia". Driving down I-70 or 76 into that part of the state, the topography tells the story. Once you pass Wheeling WV into Ohio, it immediately flattens out and you know you've reached the beginning of the "Midwest".

 
Old 04-05-2021, 01:50 PM
 
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Newark, NJ has a Rust Belt feel in parts. As does New Haven, CT. Are those Midwestern cities, too?

The Rust Belt is a Northern phenomenon, not Midwestern.
Massive difference between East Coast and rust belt cities is how international they are.

Providence, New Haven or Newark might not be Super well off economically. In similar shape to Buffalo or Toledo but they are very different. Their foreign born percent is much more in line with big east coast cities than the Great Lakes cities.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Neither, its rust belt. Pittsburg, Cleveland, and Detroit are rust belt.

None of the above mentioned cities I would consider midwestern or east coast. Just because Pittsburg is in the same state as Philly doesn't mean its the same region. I would say it doesn't become midwestern until you go west towards Columbus. Chicago is purely midwestern.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 03:36 PM
 
Location: OC
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when I was a child growing up in Texas, I associated it with the east coast. Big part of the reason is because it's sports teams played in the east.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 03:56 PM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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when I was a child growing up in Texas, I associated it with the east coast. Big part of the reason is because it's sports teams played in the east.
Agree. Pro and college.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 04:00 PM
 
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Agree. Pro and college.
New Jersey issue Midwest because Rutgers is in the BIG10
 
Old 04-05-2021, 04:44 PM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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New Jersey issue Midwest because Rutgers is in the BIG10
Recency bias. All those bizarre conference realignments are fairly new (last 10 years). Pittsburgh was in the BE for a long time. Pro teams are all Eastern and Northern division.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Recency bias. All those bizarre conference realignments are fairly new (last 10 years). Pittsburgh was in the BE for a long time. Pro teams are all Eastern and Northern division.
Nah, Pirates have been NL Central since the 90s realignment.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Massive difference between East Coast and rust belt cities is how international they are.

Providence, New Haven or Newark might not be Super well off economically. In similar shape to Buffalo or Toledo but they are very different. Their foreign born percent is much more in line with big east coast cities than the Great Lakes cities.
Yes, immigration is a notable difference between Rust Belt and East Coast. But even still, the primary feature of the so-called Rust Belt has nothing to do with immigration patterns and everything to do with formerly heavily industrual/manufacturing-based cities.

Cities like Newark certainly have not become as hollowed out as, say, Youngstown. But the economic decline is not completely dissimilar.
 
Old 04-05-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: California
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It depends on who you ask. I voted for Appalachian (and I have a lot of family members who live in and around Pittsburgh).
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