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The Cleveland thing is definitely a 30-40+ perception. I heard about the Serial Killer there and I heard about the River being on Fire but that was all a decade ago. The River itself caught in fire several decades ago. Cleveland now is even less notorious than Saint Louis or Baltimore and Chicago and Detroit still somewhat hold the crown in my book for dilapidated Midwest. Their just hasn’t been anything unwieldy terrible that happened to Cleveland in the last 10 years for it to even make sense in this poll. Even during the riots and protests of last year it was one of the least talked about cities for violence.
The Cleveland thing is definitely a 30-40+ perception. I heard about the Serial Killer there and I heard about the River being on Fire but that was all a decade ago. The River itself caught in fire several decades ago. Cleveland now is even less notorious than Saint Louis or Baltimore and Chicago and Detroit still somewhat hold the crown in my book for dilapidated Midwest. Their just hasn’t been anything unwieldy terrible that happened to Cleveland in the last 10 years for it to even make sense in this poll. Even during the riots and protests of last year it was one of the least talked about cities for violence.
After Treyvon Martin, the Tamir Rice murder was one of the main early catalysts (along with Mike Brown, Eric Garner, etc.) for the BLM movement, but I wouldn't say any city is ridiculed in popular culture due to racial injustice protests (which happened in every city in the country regardless of whether you heard about it:
The Anthony Sowell (serial killer you referred to was 2009) case was international news at the time and painted a black eye on the city. You may have heard of Ariel Castro a couple years later who also made international news when one of the three girls he had been holding captive for over 10 years escaped his house, which was another black eye. But even those aren't examples of pop culture ridicule, more like a spotlight on how was it possible those two things took place (Sowell having 11 bodies in his home) and Castro (holding three girls captive for over a decade) happen in the middle of city neighborhoods.
I had to vote for Newark because I feel like nobody gets ridiculed quite like New Jersey does... Sure, most don't single out Newark, but NYC and Philly both give it to Jersey like nobody's business...
If you didn't know better, listening to those guys, you would think Jersey was just a huge smelly dump...
I had to vote for Newark because I feel like nobody gets ridiculed quite like New Jersey does... Sure, most don't single out Newark, but NYC and Philly both give it to Jersey like nobody's business...
If you didn't know better, listening to those guys, you would think Jersey was just a huge smelly dump...
I agree. I said the same thing a couple weeks back that New Jersey as a state gets as much ridicule as anywhere, and mostly unfair.
As a state, Florida is starting to get like that too with the whole "Florida man" thing where anything bizarre that happens in that gigantic, populated state gets attention because it generates clicks/views.
I had to vote for Newark because I feel like nobody gets ridiculed quite like New Jersey does... Sure, most don't single out Newark, but NYC and Philly both give it to Jersey like nobody's business...
If you didn't know better, listening to those guys, you would think Jersey was just a huge smelly dump...
Benjamin Franklin in the 1770s said of New Jersey that it was "a keg tapped at both ends." The history of Philadelphia and New York exerting their pull on the two halves of the state is long. (Princeton University is where it is because the presbyteries of New York and Philadelphia each wanted to establish a college in the 1740s; instead, they decided to go in together on one and chose a location exactly midway between the two cities.)
I've said of Newark that if it were located anywhere other than where it is (15 minutes from New York), we would be talking about a metropolitan center in its own right.
Chicago probably: it has been called 'Chiraq', 'the murder capital'(although this is incorrect per capita, only in absolute numbers it is), people still often talk about Al Capone and Cabrini Green, it has been called a 'gangster city' in the Gangland crime documentaries.
Detroit used to take a lot of heat too, although it is greatly improving at the moment. Already in the 70s it got ridiculed:
Chicago probably: it has been called 'Chiraq', 'the murder capital'(although this is incorrect per capita, only in absolute numbers it is), people still often talk about Al Capone and Cabrini Green, it has been called a 'gangster city' in the Gangland crime documentaries.
Detroit used to take a lot of heat too, although it is greatly improving at the moment. Already in the 70s it got ridiculed:
Cleveland got those in movies too. I don't remember anything about the movie Mr. Baseball from the early 90s other than I remember it doubled down on the "don't tell me I've been traded to Cleveland" joke. Like once wasn't enough.
On that note, Cleveland had an entire movie based off it in "Major League," which actually is on the Mount Rushmore of overall sports comedies (actually comedies, period) and one that Cleveland has absolutely embraced as its own. Lol, no joke, people could name more people off the fictional Cleveland Indians from that move than they could the actual real team in the late 80s-early 90s ... I'm actually surprised there isn't a Ricky Vaughn statue in Cleveland (ala Rocky in Philadelphia).
Cleveland got those in movies too. I don't remember anything about the movie Mr. Baseball from the early 90s other than I remember it doubled down on the "don't tell me I've been traded to Cleveland" joke. Like once wasn't enough.
On that note, Cleveland had an entire movie based off it in "Major League," which actually is on the Mount Rushmore of overall sports comedies (actually comedies, period) and one that Cleveland has absolutely embraced as its own. Lol, no joke, people could name more people off the fictional Cleveland Indians from that move than they could the actual real team in the late 80s-early 90s ... I'm actually surprised there isn't a Ricky Vaughn statue in Cleveland (ala Rocky in Philadelphia).
Major League is hilarious. I've memorized many lines from that movie.
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