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View Poll Results: Which U.S. city or State would you have a second home in if you have a primary home in Europe and yo
Miami Beach, Florida 11 20.37%
Palm Beach, Florida 6 11.11%
Manhattan Beach/Hermosa Beach/Redondo Beach, Los Angeles (LA) 14 25.93%
Atherton, San Francisco (SF) 5 9.26%
New York 18 33.33%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-28-2021, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Yeah, Palm Beach—specifically Palm Beach island and as close as you can get to Worth Avenue up to the area near Breakers Hotel and The Meat Market restaurant, along South County Road and/or Royal Poinciana Way, would be good from a walkability standpoint. Not quite enough happening for my tastes but more than satisfactory for the OP....one minor correction: JFK closer to 3 hours by plane.

Glad money not an object for OP as Palm Beach might be/have been the hottest market in the entire nation.

https://palmbeachbusinessandlifestyl...in-palm-beach/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...en%3f_amp=true

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.man...-record-222719

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Based on what you've told us about yourself, if I were you say...6 years ago... I would have easily said New York. The Fashion industry is there, Hollywood, Wall Street, etc. But now post pandemic, things have obviously shifted. If you're based in the fashion business, it isn't a smart idea to live out west because of the time difference. You'll have to be in Europe or South America often and getting unto both from the west coast adds four to five hours to your commute. Not to mention the insane politics that have turned CA into a crime ridden homeless encampment. You'll be taxed over 45% of your income and get nothing in return.

The best place for large single home mansions with nice views and a high quality lifestyle is easily Palm Beach. It traditionally has skewed older but has many younger families and crowds now due to the pandemic exodus. It's quiet and pristine, lots of nice restaurants, the beach is beautiful, and the city caters to a wealthy class. Palm Beach airport takes you to New York in as little as 2 hours. If you drive or take the train down to Fort Lauderdale airport, you can fly to any European country in under 10 hours.

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Old 05-28-2021, 09:43 AM
 
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Based on what you've told us about yourself, if I were you say...6 years ago... I would have easily said New York. The Fashion industry is there, Hollywood, Wall Street, etc. But now post pandemic, things have obviously shifted. If you're based in the fashion business, it isn't a smart idea to live out west because of the time difference. You'll have to be in Europe or South America often and getting to both from the west coast adds four to five hours to your commute. Not to mention the insane politics that have turned CA into a crime ridden homeless encampment. You'll be taxed over 45% of your income and get nothing in return.

The best place for large single home mansions with nice views and a high quality lifestyle is easily Palm Beach. It traditionally has skewed older but has many younger families and crowds now due to the pandemic exodus. It's quiet and pristine, lots of nice restaurants, the beach is beautiful, and the city caters to a wealthy class. Palm Beach airport takes you to New York in as little as 2 hours. If you drive or take the train down to Fort Lauderdale airport, you can fly to any European country in under 10 hours.
Thanks, can you get mansions like this in New York and the same 'vibe'? I don't want to live like sardines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXGKZl66Fo

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Yeah, Palm Beach—specifically Palm Beach island and as close as you can get to Worth Avenue up to the area near Breakers Hotel and The Meat Market restaurant, along South County Road and/or Royal Poinciana Way, would be good from a walkability standpoint. Not quite enough happening for my tastes but more than satisfactory for the OP....one minor correction: JFK closer to 3 hours by plane.

Glad money not an object for OP as Palm Beach might be/have been the hottest market in the entire nation.

https://palmbeachbusinessandlifestyl...in-palm-beach/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...en%3f_amp=true

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.man...-record-222719
Thanks, is that cause Palm Beach is laid-back compared to New York? That suits me.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Definitely more laid back and suburban (think Hamptons), not urban, with large estates and Uber wealthy residents—a good number of whom own yachts (if that matters to you). A bit more happening than another wealthy enclave located 30 minutes up the coast, Jupiter Island.

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Thanks, can you get mansions like this in New York and the same 'vibe'? I don't want to live like sardines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKXGKZl66Fo



Thanks, is that cause Palm Beach is laid-back compared to New York? That suits me.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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Definitely more laid back and suburban (think Hamptons), not urban, with large estates and Uber wealthy residents—a good number of whom own yachts (if that matters to you). A bit more happening than another wealthy enclave located 30 minutes up the coast, Jupiter Island.
That's wonderful. However, I just learnt that Miami is going underwater and will be gone within 80 years. That shows me Miami is more of a holiday destination rather than a second home?
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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First -- Based on your backstory...I would not come to C-D for advice.
Second -- You need an agent.
Third -- With no budget, I would think that somewhere between Boston and Cape May would work for a 2nd home. You might get a NYC townhouse as a smaller, cozier, third place.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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You gonna be around in 80 years?....is Amsterdam under water?....yes, Miami and Palm Beach turn into the Sahara Desert meets Mars from March 1 - November 1; nobody lives here full time ...SMH ....most of the other options you listed have been impacted by climate within recent years. Can’t tell you what life will be like in 5 years, let alone 80. Starting to question if this is a serious topic or troll post, especially if worried about encountering or being eaten by an alligator.

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Old 05-28-2021, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Madison, NJ
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The East coast of the US. West coast locations add an additional ~4-5 hours of flight time from Europe, each way. Enough travel back and forth to warrant a second home there seems less likely due to the long flight time. With the time spent in the airport ahead of the flight plus the time it takes to go through customs, you are basically losing a day and a half to two days of your life traveling per trip. Boston is a good option as well but was not listed in your poll. For example, flights to Paris are about 7 hours from NY or Boston, 9 hours from Miami and 11 hours from San Francisco. There are many direct flights to Europe from the NYC area, including Newark airport in New Jersey which can be reached easily from "less crowded" areas of NJ.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Thanks for all the responses.

These are the things that matters to me most:
(6) I don't like creepy animals, crocidiles/alligators/snakes etc.
You can forget Florida, then. It has copious amounts of snakes and alligators.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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East Coast. Convenience factor. NY or Florida, pick your poison.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Poor choices were offered. If I was based in Britain, I would choose the Cayman Islands.

From the rest of Europe, either a Caribbean Island or Florida, factoring proximity to Europe.

If I was going to travel for months at a time, I would choose Hawaii.

EDIT: With family in NY and connections to the fashion industry, New York seems logical unless you prefer tropical.

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