Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-19-2022, 08:06 AM
 
97 posts, read 58,461 times
Reputation: 278

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by boreatwork View Post
Sounds similar to how crime is in DC. Most incidents on the northeast/ southeast side. What about the suburbs of Milwaukee?
Suburbs of Milwaukee are incredibly safe -- among the safest in the country. Also, "southwest side" is incorrect. "Near South Side" is more accurate. The "Southwest Side" -- let's say south of Oklahoma Avenue and west of 27th Street -- has a crime rate (and homicide rate) that's a mere fraction of the Northwest Side or the city as a whole. Homicides are now occurring all over the far Northwest Side in locations that 20 years ago were pretty much unthinkable and rarely experienced murders. For example, overnight there was a double homicide at Appleton Ave. and Congress St. in a what was, not so long ago, a thriving middle class neighborhood developed in the 1950s and 1960s.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-19-2022, 08:27 AM
 
386 posts, read 266,377 times
Reputation: 401
I could be wrong on this overall but it seems like the big cities (New York, Chicago, DC, Philadelphia) are starting to come down and the mid sized cities are still really struggling.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2022, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
9,680 posts, read 9,390,397 times
Reputation: 7261
Nashville 100
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2022, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
2,655 posts, read 2,097,567 times
Reputation: 2124
Looking over Jackson's record shattering start into the 2020s and continues to be tragically high. At this moment i think the homicides isn't going to decline back to mid 2010s level until late 2020s. The rate spike back in 2018 at 84 then 83 in 2019. Those numbers were last seen in the early 90s. 2020 was completely shocking to see it hit and surpass 100 homicides. Having a declining population makes the citywide rate worse. Yet as with all other cities there's sections far more worse than others & likewise for neighborhoods. Downtown Jackson only have a couple thousand people and generally have no homicides or a miniscule few. Downtown isn't bad outside the mill st neighborhood and quiet throughout the year. * represent the latest info until further update.

[Homicides/Rate]
West Jackson: The smallest of the 3 main sides by area (22 sq.mi) & population (24K).
•2018: 22 ( 91/100K)
•2019: 24 (100/100K)
•2020: 38 (158/100K)
•2021: 36 (150/100K)
•2022: 27*(112/100K)

South Jackson: The 2nd largest side by area (31 sq.mi) & population ( 41K).
•2018: 17 (41/100K)
•2019: 23 (56/100K)
•2020: 30 (73/100K)
•2021: 32 (78/100K)
•2022: 20 (48/100K)

North Jackson: Largest by area ( 54 sq.mi) & population (85K). There's a distinction between Northwest & Northeast Jackson being split by I-55. Majority of homicides on this side of the city occurs in NW side low income neighborhoods while NE side have the smallest number of incidents. 2 Police precincts covers the northside while the other sections have 1 each.
•2018: 40 (47/100K)
•2019: 31 (36/100K)
•2020: 59 (69/100K)
•2021: 83 (97/100K)
•2022: 81* (95/100K)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2022, 12:37 PM
 
2 posts, read 1,041 times
Reputation: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTracerJeff View Post
Suburbs of Milwaukee are incredibly safe -- among the safest in the country. Also, "southwest side" is incorrect. "Near South Side" is more accurate. The "Southwest Side" -- let's say south of Oklahoma Avenue and west of 27th Street -- has a crime rate (and homicide rate) that's a mere fraction of the Northwest Side or the city as a whole. Homicides are now occurring all over the far Northwest Side in locations that 20 years ago were pretty much unthinkable and rarely experienced murders. For example, overnight there was a double homicide at Appleton Ave. and Congress St. in a what was, not so long ago, a thriving middle class neighborhood developed in the 1950s and 1960s.
I agree with this. There may also be some crime spillover into Brown Deer which was unthinkable just a few decades ago. But most of the suburbs are extremely safe.

Police in Milwaukee struggle to deal with even the most basic crimes. The murder rate in Milwaukee is very high, but we have an incredibly high rate of nonfatal shootings and other violent crimes. Becoming one of the most dangerous cities in the country with the overwhelming majority of violent crime happening in the Northwest section.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2022, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California suburb
376 posts, read 209,999 times
Reputation: 406
Quote:
Originally Posted by mphilly View Post
I could be wrong on this overall but it seems like the big cities (New York, Chicago, DC, Philadelphia) are starting to come down and the mid sized cities are still really struggling.

No you're correct that the homicides slowed down nationwide in the biggest population areas in the last 2 months. Although it can very well shoot back up starting next year. My theory is that a wave of people "involved" have been killed but a new crop is about to emerge soon.
As for mid size cities, another theory is that the crime has "spilled" into them from the largest population centers and the pandemic "kicked off" a new generation of violence and chaos in the mid sized cities.
IMO, I just feel like the hope for pre-pandemic statistics are not feasible because that's now in the past, we're living the post-pandemic era.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2022, 08:19 AM
 
6,561 posts, read 12,044,134 times
Reputation: 5251
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dw572 View Post
No you're correct that the homicides slowed down nationwide in the biggest population areas in the last 2 months. Although it can very well shoot back up starting next year. My theory is that a wave of people "involved" have been killed but a new crop is about to emerge soon.
As for mid size cities, another theory is that the crime has "spilled" into them from the largest population centers and the pandemic "kicked off" a new generation of violence and chaos in the mid sized cities.
IMO, I just feel like the hope for pre-pandemic statistics are not feasible because that's now in the past, we're living the post-pandemic era.
I was thinking it was just cities not named Atlanta that had a great year in 2022. But yeah, it was mainly NYC, I think LA just by a bit, Chicago, and even Philly, Houston, and DC all have lower numbers this year. The last 3 were up earlier this year at some point and then slowed down.

The cities that had worse years that I know of include Atlanta, Milwaukee, NOLA, Pittsburgh, Norfolk, Seattle, and Portland.

It is wishful thinking that we'll go back to the pre-COVID numbers now that the pandemic is over, but 2022 might be an exception rather than the rule. I think in the long term we are trending back upwards after the decline from the late 1990's to the mid-2010's.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: the future
2,594 posts, read 4,655,643 times
Reputation: 1583
Default Boredatwork

Quote:
Originally Posted by SEAandATL View Post
I was thinking it was just cities not named Atlanta that had a great year in 2022. But yeah, it was mainly NYC, I think LA just by a bit, Chicago, and even Philly, Houston, and DC all have lower numbers this year. The last 3 were up earlier this year at some point and then slowed down.

The cities that had worse years that I know of include Atlanta, Milwaukee, NOLA, Pittsburgh, Norfolk, Seattle, and Portland.

It is wishful thinking that we'll go back to the pre-COVID numbers now that the pandemic is over, but 2022 might be an exception rather than the rule. I think in the long term we are trending back upwards after the decline from the late 1990's to the mid-2010's.
Memphis is down also I believe. It was similar to Baltimore the last couple years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2022, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
21,629 posts, read 12,754,191 times
Reputation: 11221
Boston 40. Person shot in the Theatre District (Downtown) in front of the Moxy on December 11th has died. This surpasses last years total.

https://www.facebook.com/10006468304...ibextid=cr9u03

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/H45bdMoYA61mY2QNA?g_st=ic
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2022, 03:59 PM
 
6,613 posts, read 16,579,554 times
Reputation: 4787
St. Paul at 39 after woman shot in a home in Payne-Phelan last night. Last year's total was 38 and it was the highest count on record.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top