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Old 04-12-2024, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I don't understand why these kids are rapping about violence when there's comparatively so little of it today. The New York City these kids are getting today is like an amusement park compared to the 90s.

Homicide

1990: 2,262
2023: 391

Robbery

1990: 100,280
2023: 16,910

Burglary

1990: 122,055
2023: 13,773

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-city.pdf

This is probably the safest it's ever been to be a kid in NYC.
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Old 04-12-2024, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I’d personally say that the Tier 1 here is tier by itself. Not even a 1a but a singled out

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Which cities have the most distinguishable, unique, or identifiable, and robust localized Black culture across America? This can encompass accent, fashion trends, recognizable slang, an overall persona that one possess etc. Meaning running into a person from that place anywhere on the planet you would most easily be able to identify where they are from.


These tiers are just my opinion, but I would like to see where other opinions line up.


Tier 1:

New Orleans
Detroit
DC
Atlanta (mostly here on raw size for me)

Tier 1a:

New York
Philly
Houston
Baltimore
Chicago
Los Angeles

Tier 2:

St. Louis
Memphis
Miami
Oakland/SF
Baton Rouge
Richmond/ Hampton Roads, VA cities

Tier 3:

Dallas
Boston
Louisville
Charlotte
Orlando
Charleston
Blacks from Appalachia (WV, Western PA, Kentucky, Western VA)
Birmingham
New Jersey

Tier 4:

Milwaukee
Southern GA
Jacksonville
Upstate NY (Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse)
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Kansas City
Jackson
Charlotte
Raleigh-Durham
Nashville
Little Rock
Minneapolis
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Old 04-12-2024, 01:20 PM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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I don't understand why these kids are rapping about violence when there's comparatively so little of it today. The New York City these kids are getting today is like an amusement park compared to the 90s.

Homicide

1990: 2,262
2023: 391

Robbery

1990: 100,280
2023: 16,910

Burglary

1990: 122,055
2023: 13,773

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-city.pdf

This is probably the safest it's ever been to be a kid in NYC.
Because they’re are gang members turned rappers lol.
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Old 04-12-2024, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Because they’re are gang members turned rappers lol.
Exactly!


Most of these rappers now are THE active drivers of street crime. At least in some cities. Half the Boston rap scene is in Federal lock up on RICO Racketeering, and Trafficking charges.

Rap is quite literally tax front situation for them.
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Old 04-12-2024, 03:25 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
I don't understand why these kids are rapping about violence when there's comparatively so little of it today. The New York City these kids are getting today is like an amusement park compared to the 90s.

Homicide

1990: 2,262
2023: 391

Robbery

1990: 100,280
2023: 16,910

Burglary

1990: 122,055
2023: 13,773

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-city.pdf

This is probably the safest it's ever been to be a kid in NYC.
Violence is relative. The people who weren't of age to understand the carnage of 70s/80s/90s NY, or weren't even alive at all back then, have no frame of reference to that period, their frame of reference is to the NY they grew up in...

And honestly most cities are in the same boat as NY, in that they were much more violent in the 90s on backwards than today. Cities like St Louis, which has never dropped much from its 90s peak of violence; and Memphis and Baltimore where present era (2015 to present) for those cities is the most dangerous they've ever been, those cities are outliers. There are a few more but most cities are like NY, and it's not stopping those modern rappers from talking about violence either----->because experience is relative to what they are used to...

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Because they’re are gang members turned rappers lol.
.............

By the way, while neither Charlotte nor Raleigh have nationally distinct black cultures, they are highly unique in the overall livability for black people. And on a more local level, within Carolina, both cities exude tremendous influence to black folk all across NC, and of course Charlotte's extends into SC. Black Carolina residents are highly aware of the influence black people from Charlotte and Raleigh have...
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Old 04-12-2024, 06:40 PM
 
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It's also the case that Black youth culture is more homogeneous today. In the 90s, there were very distinct NYC, West Coast, Southern and to some degree Midwestern sounds in hip hop, but nowadays the Atlanta trap sound is the prevailing sound/style among artists irrespective of origin. Lil' Uzi Vert looks and sounds more like Lil' Wayne than Freeway, Beanie Sigel, Peedi Crakk or Tommy Hill.

Even Go-Go in the DMV is dying out. These new kids are DONE WITH THE 90s!!! They are not trying to listen to their dad's music. There is no Gen Z equivalent of the Backyard Band and certainly not one that enjoys the same level of popularity. Kids want to rap these days. And everyone can buy the same stuff off the internet so there's not as much distinctiveness IMO.
Unfortunately you are right! But seriously, how boring and limiting it must be to only have interest in one musical genre.
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Old 04-12-2024, 06:46 PM
 
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There aren't too many places where there aren't transplants. But honestly, I really don't see any local culture here.
You would have seen some of it the day before you posted this had you attended this event, which is authentic Black Charlotte: https://qcitymetro.com/2024/04/01/fr...usic-and-food/

Some background: https://www.ourstate.com/shout-bands-charlotte/
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Old 04-16-2024, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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And rap boomerang back into convo LoL.
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Old 04-17-2024, 04:57 AM
 
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I don't understand why these kids are rapping about violence when there's comparatively so little of it today. The New York City these kids are getting today is like an amusement park compared to the 90s.

Homicide

1990: 2,262
2023: 391

Robbery

1990: 100,280
2023: 16,910

Burglary

1990: 122,055
2023: 13,773

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-city.pdf

This is probably the safest it's ever been to be a kid in NYC.
They are responding to the demand generated by a large and increasingly White fan base that fetishizes hood ish as a fantasy.
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Old 04-17-2024, 06:31 AM
 
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You would have seen some of it the day before you posted this had you attended this event, which is authentic Black Charlotte: https://qcitymetro.com/2024/04/01/fr...usic-and-food/

Some background: https://www.ourstate.com/shout-bands-charlotte/

Absolutely great event. There are also other events like this. In your defense KodeBlue alot of the black Charlotte culture that was so blatantly prevalent even up to a decade ago is not seen as much do to gentrification and Charlotte's recent stand on not preserving it's "history" with the removal of old structures, events, and business in favor of new and modern. The original black Charlotte culture is still here but nowhere near as "loud" as it use to be. There is a "new" black culture that is more prevalent now.
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