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"Texas doesn't need two large cheap cities. (Dallas & Houston) Dallas could have been the cheap one and Houston could have been the nicer one". First, lol, no one in Texas is desirous of high coast coastal living. Second, why are you taking a dig at Dallas/FW?
I just think Dallas is bland. I'm ok with having a big cheap city. I just would rather have a nice large city in Texas rather than the second being so ugly. Those two cities are next on the list for being megacities in the states. Personally I don't think either one of them has the potential to be as nice as NY, LA or Chicago (Chicago is almsost 10 million). Now I don't think every city needs to be world class, but once again I would prefer if at least one of them tried.
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Seattle can't just will itself to attract people. Its got negatives of gray skies, high housing costs and distance from much of the North America population.
Seattle clearly has no problem with attracting people. If it had problems then it wouldn't be so ridiculously expensive. People obviously want to live there a lot and are willing to pay through the nose to live there. If only Seattle decided to become bigger they could lower their housing prices (increase supply) and become a greater city in the future.
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Albuquerque - This is an interesting city that has struggled compared to other cities in Southwest. The explosive growth of Phoenix and Vegas never really extended to ABQ, but New Mexico is certainly a beautiful place you’d think would attract more people.
This is a very good pick. Despite it being in the beautiful mountain west where virtually every city is desirable, it still lags. Personally I think they should copy the Santa Fe look and go all in on the Native American theme.
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Seattle can't just will itself to attract people. Its got negatives of gray skies, high housing costs and distance from much of the North America population.
Pretty sure they do a bit. Like there’s a reason the Pats changed their name when they went to Foxboro, or Minnesota teams aren’t Minneapolis ones, Or the Islanders struggled in Brooklyn
This has nothing to do with my point.
Yes a location within any market can be good or bad.
Yes branding matters.
But fundamentally a team needs to be in a decent-sized population center, and how that's divided up into municipal units isn't relevant from a fan-demand standpoint.
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This is a very good pick. Despite it being in the beautiful mountain west where virtually every city is desirable, it still lags. Personally I think they should copy the Santa Fe look and go all in on the Native American theme.
Seriously how old are you? You can't make a normal response without sounding like that?
Albuquerque clearly doesn't have the charm of it's much smaller brother. Santa Fe embraces it's Native American roots much more which fits with the region. There is no reason that Albuquerque can't do something similar.
Also if Phoenix could grow quite large with a much hotter region Albuquerque can do the same. Engineers can figure out a way to ration water in these areas, otherwise Tucson/Phoenix wouldn't exist as large as they are today. They have made choices to make it work and so could Albuquerque. The reason this isn't happening is because Albuquerque isn't as desirable as other western cities.
Seriously how old are you? You can't make a normal response without sounding like that?
Albuquerque clearly doesn't have the charm of it's much smaller brother. Santa Fe embraces it's Native American roots much more which fits with the region. There is no reason that Albuquerque can't do something similar.
Also if Phoenix could grow quite large with a much hotter region Albuquerque can do the same. Engineers can figure out a way to ration water in these areas, otherwise Tucson/Phoenix wouldn't exist as large as they are today. They have made choices to make it work and so could Albuquerque. The reason this isn't happening is because Albuquerque isn't as desirable as other western cities.
It's because Santa Fe's anti-business climate subdues Albuquerque as well as other New Mexico towns. It's the only state to use a Gross Receipts Tax, which is the worst kind of tax possible to businesses as services are taxed the same way products are. Just awful.
Detroit- this really should rank along Chicago, Philly, Boston as one of the urban old school northern cities.
DC- I know this seems like a joke or trolling. But, given its global prominence and extraordinary advantages as the capital of a major world power it really should be more developed than it is. The city has a so so city core, few if any Fortune 500 companies, a so so finance/VC sector, its media sector has never been able to break out of the political bureau realm. This is slowly changing, but compared to other international capital cities it is relatively underwhelming.
Hartford- Given its "costal" location between NYC and Boston it always surprised me that Connecticut didn't develop a major city. Thirty years ago it at least had a reputation as a city that punched above it's weight as an affluent center of insurance and industry. Now, I just don't hear about it. The MSA has stagnated and the city has pretty much missed out on the back to the city revival of the '00s/10s.
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DC- I know this seems like a joke or trolling. But, given its global prominence and extraordinary advantages as the capital of a major world power it really should be more developed than it is. The city has a so so city core, few if any Fortune 500 companies, a so so finance/VC sector, its media sector has never been able to break out of the political bureau realm. This is slowly changing, but compared to other international capital cities it is relatively underwhelming.
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With a top 6 urban core in the United States, the last way I'd describe DC's core is "so-so".
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Rochester diatribe aside, I’ll give these two cities to consider, rounding out my three picks.
Detroit - Obvious answer, but imagine if they had sorted out their issues and stopped the bleeding early on, diversified the economy, attracted young professionals back into the city, addressed poverty and crime. I can envision a scenario where Detroit becomes the Atlanta of the North. A bustling city known for Black wealth, deep culture, affluent suburbs and a modern logistics hub.
Albuquerque - This is an interesting city that has struggled compared to other cities in Southwest. The explosive growth of Phoenix and Vegas never really extended to ABQ, but New Mexico is certainly a beautiful place you’d think would attract more people.
Additionally since we sometimes discuss Canadian cities on this forum, I have always been puzzled by the small size of Halifax. We’re going back to colonial times with this one, but I’ve always felt historically Halifax should’ve developed as the Boston of Canada. It was such an important Atlantic port city well positioned in Nova Scotia compared to the further inland giants like Montreal and Toronto that grew into the powerhouses they became. Halifax missed its mark hundreds of years ago.
Apart from the last decade, Albuquerque has grown like a weed. Albuquerque in the 2000s grew by nearly 22 percent, which is a growth figure most metro areas nowadays would kill for and which is seen as astonishing growth in the current slow growth era of the U.S. as a whole.
Albuquerque has never had the extreme growth of many sunbelt areas, mostly due to the fact that we have seasons and can get quite cold here in the winter. It's the same reason Denver never grew as fast or to be as big as Phoenix.
I strongly believe Albuquerque is on the verge of seeing great growth again this decade. All the signs are there. We have mega projects and great job growth and announcements that will bring even more people here. Tons of stuff is being planned and built right now that will set us up for great growth in the coming years.
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