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View Poll Results: Which of these, if any, are global?
Phoenix 7 4.76%
Detroit 55 37.41%
Seattle 124 84.35%
Minneapolis 28 19.05%
San Diego 20 13.61%
Tampa 6 4.08%
Denver 11 7.48%
Baltimore 10 6.80%
St. Louis 8 5.44%
Charlotte 7 4.76%
San Antonio 6 4.08%
Portland 6 4.08%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-26-2022, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Well then your imagination is wrong. Metro areas succeed when they have multiple high density areas. Atlanta is a good example, so are major Texas cities. Chicago has multiple business centers in the suburbs. Not sure what your point is. Seattle and Bellevue together make a huge business center.
This is all completely irrelevant to a city being global. Seattle is not a global city because Bellevue has high rises. Nobody outside of City-Data or the PNW (mainly western Washington) even knows what Bellevue is. People on this site are really out of the loop of normal everyday folk. And Seattle is boosted way too much on this site.

Same goes for Texas, and many of its corporate campuses are suburban garden style campuses. Huge is a relevant term, Denvers CBD and DTC make huge business centers, doesn't make Denver a global city.
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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It only seemed that way to us Americans. Remember the globe was entering chaos during the early stages of the pandemic. The 3rd precint burning down and the Target being looted are the only things we knew about because of social media. The protests did not gain worldwide attention until the country started doing it from coast to coast from Los Angeles to the White House in D.C.
Also the protests and riots are not smaller in every other metro. The L.A one was so big that we had a 5 county (18.5M) curfew over that weekend and the national guard was deployed again like they did in 1992.
Remember the CNN building in Atlanta was being haggled.
There were international news agencies traveling to Minneapolis covering the riots before they occurred in other cities. The Minneapolis riots were by far the biggest. Minneapolis and St. Paul both had curfews that lasted almost a week with a National Guard presense as well. Over 300 buildings were damaged and over 160 buildings were set on fire. Minneapolis was the center of the BLM movement at this time.

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Old 12-26-2022, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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This is all completely irrelevant to a city being global. Seattle is not a global city because Bellevue has high rises. Nobody outside of City-Data or the PNW (mainly western Washington) even knows what Bellevue is. People on this site are really out of the loop of normal everyday folk. And Seattle is boosted way too much on this site.

Same goes for Texas, and many of its corporate campuses are suburban garden style campuses. Huge is a relevant term, Denvers CBD and DTC make huge business centers, doesn't make Denver a global city.
I completely agree with this. Seattle is extremely overrated on this site. MSP also has 2 skylines but I don't see anyone ever making that a big deal.
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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A lot of great cities in this, but I'm not sure I'd call any of them global. Maybe Seattle. I think both Detroit and St. Louis qualified at one time but not now. I think "none of the above" should be an option.
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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So I guess we are calling Bellevue a small town. But it isn’t. Bellevue has intense inner city development. The city limits do not. This is where your argument fails. Downtown Bellevue is dense, comparable to Seattle.

The problem is the rest of the city is not very dense. It s important to recognize the difference between central cities and suburban cities.
Agreed. By that logic Towson, Maryland or Clayton, Missouri would elevate Baltimore & St. Louis as both of those satellite cities are the same distance, as dense and just as built up as Bellevue relative to Seattle.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Southern California suburb
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I completely agree with this. Seattle is extremely overrated on this site. MSP also has 2 skylines but I don't see anyone ever making that a big deal.

100% agree. It's comical to read some of those Seattle mega city fantasies from time to time. Seattle and Portland are hardly even westcoast in a true sense. They're both more inland than the actual Inland Empire in the LA region. In the real world outside of this website in reality Seattle is known as a depressing place that rains alot and unfortunately has a higher rate of self harm. That's what Seattle is really known for. Also with Seattle having industry, big deal. Every bigger city has some industry and employment, otherwise it wouldn't be a big city to begin with.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:47 AM
 
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Seattle's not a global city in a strict sense, like if 20 cities are global.

It's just the obvious closest city on this list, as shown by a variety of statistics and subjective measures. Nobody else has the mix of international air connections, foreign born, global companies, etc.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Seattle's not a global city in a strict sense, like if 20 cities are global.

It's just the obvious closest city on this list, as shown by a variety of statistics and subjective measures. Nobody else has the mix of international air connections, foreign born, global companies, etc.
Seattle gave us these companies I think there some global influence but not on large scale.


Amazon
Starbucks
Nordstrom
Expeditors travel
Boeing
Microsoft
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Old 12-26-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Seattle gave us these companies I think there some global influence but not on large scale.


Amazon
Starbucks
Nordstrom
Expeditors travel
Boeing
Microsoft
Starbucks is about as global as a brand could possibly get, short of McDonalds. The question is, are people in Estonia thinking about Seattle when they get Starbucks? Probably not, just like they wouldn't be thinking about San Bernardino or Chicago when they eat a Big Mac.


That's my interpretation of "global" anyway. Its more hive mind perception than hard data.


I'm not a fan of Las Vegas, and still can't quite understand why people who live around here go there so often, but I can recognize that it has top tier global branding, much more than San Diego.
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Old 12-26-2022, 10:29 AM
 
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And Expedia, Costco... I wouldn't count Nordstrom as contributing much to a global role.

Most of these have a heavy presence in other countries. Some have daily relevance to a lot of people around the world.

In that regard, the other cities are small players, except Detroit which might be medium.

Dunno how much Starbucks is tied to Seattle, but there sure are a lot of Seattle Coffee Cos around. In fact when Starbucks entered London, they did it by buying 65 locations from a company by a name like that. There's still another Seattle Coffee of some sort in the English town where I have family.
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