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Old 04-12-2023, 10:01 AM
 
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Do you have a map or a reference for that detail? Doesn't look like the WaPo map is coming back anytime soon.
I have to find the Twitter feed. According to this chart April 3rd, ward 8 has 23 alone of course its higher now.
https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/sta...pM_HvmFtQ&s=19
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:26 AM
 
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Re: Wards 7 and 8 in DC vs. Baltimore

East of the River DC went from a homicide rate of approx 33/100k in 2012, with 51 homicides, which was about the same rate as all of Baltimore City that year, to 138 homicides in 2021, a rate of around 90/100k, higher than Baltimore City which was approx 60/100k per year.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:27 AM
 
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I have to find the Twitter feed. According to this chart April 3rd, ward 8 has 23 alone of course its higher now.
https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/sta...pM_HvmFtQ&s=19
Thank you. I've been using the annual MPD reports for year over year analysis by police district, but those aren't kept up to date within the current year.
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Old 04-12-2023, 12:22 PM
 
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Re: Wards 7 and 8 in DC vs. Baltimore

East of the River DC went from a homicide rate of approx 33/100k in 2012, with 51 homicides, which was about the same rate as all of Baltimore City that year, to 138 homicides in 2021, a rate of around 90/100k, higher than Baltimore City which was approx 60/100k per year.
Comparing wards 7/8 to all of Baltimore isn't exactly fair to the former.

West Baltimore in isolation has a higher homicide rate than East DC which is a more subjectively "fair" comparison as they are the two most dangerous portions of each respective city.
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Old 04-12-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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Comparing wards 7/8 to all of Baltimore isn't exactly fair to the former.

West Baltimore in isolation has a higher homicide rate than East DC which is a more subjectively "fair" comparison as they are the two most dangerous portions of each respective city.
There are three clusters in Baltimore anyway...Inner West Baltimore, Inner East Baltimore, and Park Heights area.

https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/?range=2022

Would take some work to count the rates, though...
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Old 04-12-2023, 01:30 PM
 
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Comparing wards 7/8 to all of Baltimore isn't exactly fair to the former.

West Baltimore in isolation has a higher homicide rate than East DC which is a more subjectively "fair" comparison as they are the two most dangerous portions of each respective city.
East Baltimore isn't so great either. But the larger point is why the numbers in specific areas go up and down, which I've never heard a good explanation for, usually just something about drugs and gangs. The issue specific to Wards 7 and 8 is there was a lot of success there ten years ago that's eroded for some reason.

Back to numbers:
Baltimore 78
DC 61

DC Wards 7&8 38 of 54 recorded by the Ward mapper, 160k population
Wards 1,2,&3 - 1 of 54 recorded by the Ward mapper, 240k population
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Old 04-12-2023, 01:52 PM
 
Location: 35203
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36 homicides as of April 10 in Birmingham, AL (city population 197,521 estimate 2021).
5 of the 36 were from reckless driving.
https://www.bhamwiki.com/w/List_of_B...icides_in_2023
Most of the stuff on the website is outdated and inaccurate, to say the least.

What about Huntsville numbers.?? Don't worry I got you, they up to 16 homicides so far.

https://police.birminghamal.gov/wp-c...il-10-2023.pdf

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Old 04-12-2023, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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East Baltimore isn't so great either. But the larger point is why the numbers in specific areas go up and down, which I've never heard a good explanation for, usually just something about drugs and gangs. The issue specific to Wards 7 and 8 is there was a lot of success there ten years ago that's eroded for some reason.

Back to numbers:
Baltimore 78
DC 61

DC Wards 7&8 38 of 54 recorded by the Ward mapper, 160k population
Wards 1,2,&3 - 1 of 54 recorded by the Ward mapper, 240k population
I think the rise in violence is due to the generation. The generation of early adults and teens in the 1980s-1990s was violent like the children growing up now. The millennials (my generation) are peaceful, but generation Z is very violent.


“In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center decided a year ago to use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 23 to 38 in 2019) is considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward is part of a new generation.“
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:39 PM
 
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Comparing wards 7/8 to all of Baltimore isn't exactly fair to the former.

West Baltimore in isolation has a higher homicide rate than East DC which is a more subjectively "fair" comparison as they are the two most dangerous portions of each respective city.
Not necessarily based on 2022. We were supposed to be confirming what is considered and the population of west Baltimore. The Sun map is including everything around Carrollton ridge as Southern district so I don't know if that's really considered West or South.


Based on 2022
Ward 8 DC- 77 rate 100
Ward 7 DC- 45 rate 63
West Baltimore- 127- rate 45
East Baltimore- 123 rate 61.5
South Baltimore -55 rate166
North STL-114 rate 146
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Old 04-12-2023, 02:46 PM
 
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I think the rise in violence is due to the generation. The generation of early adults and teens in the 1980s-1990s was violent like the children growing up now. The millennials (my generation) are peaceful, but generation Z is very violent.


“In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center decided a year ago to use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 23 to 38 in 2019) is considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward is part of a new generation.“
Its a crash dummy generation where they aren't mentally let alone spiritually advanced beyond the technology they use to kill themselves whether it be switches or social media. On top of that they steal these cars and run errands in them like a soccer mom. Unfortunately some are being raised by deadbeat millennials themselves.
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