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Old 04-01-2023, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Looking at recent census data, the Black population percentage in the City of Atlanta has dropped faster over the last decade than the Black population percentage in DC proper. Which jurisdiction will see their Black population percentage passed as being the largest racial group first?


DC Proper

Black = 43%
White = 36%
Hispanic = 11%
Asian = 4%

City of Atlanta

Black = 44%
White = 39%
Hispanic = 6%
Asian = 5%

These two cities have been competing for the title of Chocolate City for years, but recent demographic changes have been shifting the racial makeup of both cities. Which city will hold on to the title longest with Black people making up the largest population of any other race moving forward?

For clarity, this is not about suburban people and jurisdictions. This is about the actual cities themselves.

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Old 04-01-2023, 04:28 PM
 
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Looking at recent census data, the Black population percentage in the City of Atlanta has dropped faster over the last decade than the Black population percentage in DC proper. Which jurisdiction will see their Black population percentage passed as being the largest racial group first?


DC Proper

Black = 43%
White = 36%
Hispanic = 11%
Asian = 4%

City of Atlanta

Black = 44%
White = 39%
Hispanic = 6%
Asian = 5%

These two cities have been competing for the title of Chocolate City for years, but recent demographic changes have been shifting the racial makeup of both cities. Which city will hold on to the title longest with Black people making up the largest population of any other race moving forward?

For clarity, this is not about suburban people and jurisdictions. This is about the actual cities themselves.


If anything, both cities are competing to be one of the future "DIVERSE" capitols.

Chocolate city titles are a thing of the past for inner cities as the years move along and gentrification continues to take a hold on cities.
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Old 04-01-2023, 11:58 PM
 
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Looking at recent census data, the Black population percentage in the City of Atlanta has dropped faster over the last decade than the Black population percentage in DC proper. Which jurisdiction will see their Black population percentage passed as being the largest racial group first?


DC Proper

Black = 43%
White = 36%
Hispanic = 11%
Asian = 4%

City of Atlanta

Black = 44%
White = 39%
Hispanic = 6%
Asian = 5%

These two cities have been competing for the title of Chocolate City for years, but recent demographic changes have been shifting the racial makeup of both cities. Which city will hold on to the title longest with Black people making up the largest population of any other race moving forward?

For clarity, this is not about suburban people and jurisdictions. This is about the actual cities themselves.
I think D.C will remain less black heading into the future. Just because so much of Atlanta’s landmass is black neighborhoods. Buckhead is what makes Atlanta white and it’s not necessarily the center of the city while NW D.C is partially the center and is far more urban throughout it and representative of D.C than Buckhead is of the rest of Atlanta. Once gentrification changes Central Atlanta I feel like it will take far longer to get to the more suburban parts of West especially Southwest Atlanta.

When you look at say the distance to Capital Hill, it’s far more likely that all neighborhoods West of the Anacostia in my humble opinion becomes either diverse, majority white or plurality white.

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Old 04-02-2023, 12:29 AM
 
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I think D.C will remain less black heading into the future. Just because so much of Atlanta’s landmass is black neighborhoods. Buckhead is what makes Atlanta white and it’s not necessarily the center of the city while NW D.C is partially the center and is far more urban throughout it and representative of D.C than Buckhead is of the rest of Atlanta. Once gentrification changes Central Atlanta I feel like it will take far longer to get to the more suburban parts of West especially Southwest Atlanta.

When you look at say the distance to Capital Hill, it’s far more likely that all neighborhoods West of the Anacostia in my humble opinion becomes either diverse, majority white or plurality white.
Wouldn’t that be the opposite of what you’re saying? The more central Atlanta builds, the lower the Black population percentage will drop. The SW Atlanta neighborhoods aren’t producing the density needed to keep pace with the growth of other races in central Atlanta. That’s how the population percentage dropped over the last decade.

Looking at the demographics right now, Atlanta’s White population is 5% below the Black population while in DC, the White population is 7% below the Black population. I think this boils down to construction in the Black parts of each city and who is moving into the new construction.
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Old 04-02-2023, 01:47 PM
 
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I personally see Atlanta’s white population surpassing its black population faster, unless buckhead secedes. The trends just break that way and I think the division of municipal boundaries there is super weak and facilitates that.

In public consciousness Atlanta will retain Chocolate City longer though.

A large share of people- of all races- don’t know DC as Chocolate City. Even in DC you have people saying it used to be chocolate city or that it’s Mocha City.

Atlanta has basically become a euphemism for Black in American lexicon and there’s just way too much black media that come out of ATL for anyone to even think about it being Chocolate city or not. People might know nothing about Atlanta other than it’s the black capital of North America.
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Old 04-02-2023, 02:05 PM
 
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I personally see Atlanta’s white population surpassing its black population faster, unless buckhead secedes. The trends just break that way and I think the division of municipal boundaries there is super weak and facilitates that.

In public consciousness Atlanta will retain Chocolate City longer though.

A large share of people- of all races- don’t know DC as Chocolate City. Even in DC you have people saying it used to be chocolate city or that it’s Mocha City.

Atlanta has basically become a euphemism for Black in American lexicon and there’s just way too much black media that come out of ATL for anyone to even think about it being Chocolate city or not. People might know nothing about Atlanta other than it’s the black capital of North America.
I agree with this. People associate Atlanta with the suburbs and people in Atlanta embrace the suburbs so that makes sense. It doesn’t have the same dynamic a DC or NYC does with its suburbs where the city is superior to the suburbs from what I have observed. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say anything negative about living in the suburbs of Atlanta the way people in DC talk about living in Virginia or Maryland or people in NYC talk about living in New Jersey. That is perception though.

The reality will be different and I too agree the data and trends point to the Black population in Atlanta being surpassed soon. It will be interesting looking at this over the coming years.
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Old 04-02-2023, 02:11 PM
 
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I personally see Atlanta’s white population surpassing its black population faster, unless buckhead secedes. The trends just break that way and I think the division of municipal boundaries there is super weak and facilitates that.

In public consciousness Atlanta will retain Chocolate City longer though.

A large share of people- of all races- don’t know DC as Chocolate City. Even in DC you have people saying it used to be chocolate city or that it’s Mocha City.

Atlanta has basically become a euphemism for Black in American lexicon and there’s just way too much black media that come out of ATL for anyone to even think about it being Chocolate city or not. People might know nothing about Atlanta other than it’s the black capital of North America.
I'm also curious if the the incorporation of South Fulton may cause a shift to that city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Fulton,_Georgia

https://www.cityofsouthfultonga.gov/
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Old 04-02-2023, 02:15 PM
 
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I'm also curious if the the incorporation of South Fulton may cause a shift to that city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Fulton,_Georgia

https://www.cityofsouthfultonga.gov/
Isn’t it incorporated already?
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Old 04-02-2023, 03:20 PM
 
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Isn’t it incorporated already?
Yes, but it is still quite new and it likely will have room for more development in the future. So, that is why I'm wondering if there will be a shift to South Fulton, given that it is 90% black and has room to grow.
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Old 04-02-2023, 03:29 PM
 
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Yes, but it is still quite new and it likely will have room for more development in the future. So, that is why I'm wondering if there will be a shift to South Fulton, given that it is 90% black and has room to grow.
Do you think Black people in SW Atlanta will leave for the City of South Fulton in the coming years?
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