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Atlanta has five distinct skylines: Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Cumberland/Galleria and Perimeter Center. Buckheads skyline shouldn't really be compared to Fort Worth's, it's much larger and and quite a bit taller. Atlanta may be lacking in population compared to the other cities mentioned, but it isn't lacking in skyscrapers - especially compared to DFW.
DFW does have more areas with high rises, maybe not "skyscrapers" as this thread is about.
Atlanta has five distinct skylines: Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Cumberland/Galleria and Perimeter Center. Buckheads skyline shouldn't really be compared to Fort Worth's, it's much larger and and quite a bit taller. Atlanta may be lacking in population compared to the other cities mentioned, but it isn't lacking in skyscrapers - especially compared to DFW.
What the poster was referring to is that Atlanta’s core is more similar to Houston and Chicago in the sense that the entire city is centered there. DFW is centered in 3 or 4 smaller locations rather than a single nucleus. The theory is that this creates an incentive for more skyscrapers.
What the poster was referring to is that Atlanta’s core is more similar to Houston and Chicago in the sense that the entire city is centered there. DFW is centered in 3 or 4 smaller locations rather than a single nucleus. The theory is that this creates an incentive for more skyscrapers.
That's not even remotely what he was conveying. He specifically said there are "numerous parts of Atlanta with skyscrapers."
What the poster was referring to is that Atlanta’s core is more similar to Houston and Chicago in the sense that the entire city is centered there. DFW is centered in 3 or 4 smaller locations rather than a single nucleus. The theory is that this creates an incentive for more skyscrapers.
+1. DFW just operates differently than most metros and Dallas doesn’t have the skyline of an 8 million MSA because it isn’t the only center of its metro. Don’t understand why it’s so hard for JMatl to understand. Atlanta, Houston, and Chicago all have skylines more proportionate to their MSA since the entire metro revolves around their central cities.
+1. DFW just operates differently than most metros and Dallas doesn’t have the skyline of an 8 million MSA because it isn’t the only center of its metro. Don’t understand why it’s so hard for JMatl to understand. Atlanta, Houston, and Chicago all have skylines more proportionate to their MSA since the entire metro revolves around their central cities.
The Bay Area is clearly multi polar, yet SF clearly dominates as the central skyscraper core.
Atlanta has five distinct skylines: Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Cumberland/Galleria and Perimeter Center. Buckheads skyline shouldn't really be compared to Fort Worth's, it's much larger and and quite a bit taller. Atlanta may be lacking in population compared to the other cities mentioned, but it isn't lacking in skyscrapers - especially compared to DFW.
Technically it has more if you count Atlantic Station as a separate skyline, and now the Old 4th Ward/PCM area and the Howell Mill areas.
+1. DFW just operates differently than most metros and Dallas doesn’t have the skyline of an 8 million MSA because it isn’t the only center of its metro. Don’t understand why it’s so hard for JMatl to understand. Atlanta, Houston, and Chicago all have skylines more proportionate to their MSA since the entire metro revolves around their central cities.
I understand perfectly well. Atlanta is much more multi-nodal than Chicago, with the largest concentration of white collar jobs in the large Edge City of Perimeter Center. Alpharetta contains the largest concentration of tech jobs in the Southeast, 26 miles North of Downtown. Atlanta follows the DFW model much more so than it does Chicago, the main difference being Atlanta builds taller away from the core.
The Bay Area is clearly multi polar, yet SF clearly dominates as the central skyscraper core.
DFW is one metro with the dominant skyline core in Dallas.
The Bay Area is not a metro. It is a combination of about 10 individual metros. It's not the same way at all. San Francisco is is one metro, Vallejo is its own MSA, Merced is its own MSA, Napa is its own MSA, Santa Rosa is is own MSA, Santa Cruz is its own MSA, Stockon is is own MSA....
An area with a dozen metros is going to be multipolar, because it is multiple metros. The example just isn't the same as DFW. Maybe Minneapolis-St Paul, or Seattle- Tacoma- Bellevue. Or even the SF metro without the Bay. The SF metro is multipolar and the SF skyline dominates but SF is very pressed for space.
DFW does have more areas with high rises, maybe not "skyscrapers" as this thread is about.
Yeah, there are a lot of areas with high-rises. Areas where skyscrapers could be built can't because of zoning that was put in place because of the residents in the area. I hate to sound like a broken record, but people typically don't want huge skyscrapers outside of downtown. Preston Center (skyline pic) is the 2nd hottest office sub-market, 2nd to Uptown Dallas...but the skyline is only made up of high-rises and mid-rises. Even those buildings have set backs to protect surrounding neighborhoods. The highest approved height (I know of) is for a planned development of 350 ft. Most people wouldn't even think there's over 5 million sq ft of office space there (according to the Q2 2023 office market report). The newest project in Preston Center, 8111 Douglas is two mid-rise mixed use towers with setbacks.
Most of the high-rises are not in dedicated commercial districts or CBD-like areas like Atlanta. Most of it (in Dallas proper) is along freeway corridors like Central Expressway, I-635 (LBJ), Stemmons Fwy (I-35), etc. Preston Center, Uptown Dallas, Downtown Dallas, or other downtown adjacent areas are the exception.
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