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View Poll Results: Which city needs the most new buildings to its skyline?
Phoenix 44 36.36%
Dallas 14 11.57%
LA 12 9.92%
Boston 13 10.74%
Detroit 10 8.26%
St. Louis 28 23.14%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2023, 10:33 AM
 
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By that logic NYC, Dubai, Chicago have "passed" Hong Kong because all three have more supertalls...

Nashville doesn't build as tall at parity (i.e build vs. building) but that doesn't mean Charlotte has more numerical buildings U/C.
According to the numbers posted for both cities there are just as many under construction in Charlotte as there are in Nashville if not more. And there are just as many planned if not more. Not to mention the buildings are taller. This is not a knock on Nashville at all.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:40 AM
 
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Ive lived in metros like NYC and Pittsburgh. I liked living NYC and disliked Pittsburgh immensely.

Had absolutely nothing to do with number of big buildings. Needing big buildings is only to satisfy some city fan boys strange attraction to high density cities.

In other words big buildings aren't a need.
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Old 08-10-2023, 11:27 AM
 
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There is no bar/standard for classifying skyscrapers or high-rises anywhere in the world.

100m or 150m is the colloquial "cutoff" which is why theres different rankings depending on which metric is used. The US fire code defines anything over +75' or 7 stories as a high-rise while Europe and Asia use a higher 35m/115' threshold. FAA requires any structure above 200' to have aircraft warning lights. I could go on.

"Boom town" has zero to do with trivial building height and everything to do with amount of housing units & office sq/ft. being produced. That being said if we want to gate-keep skyscrapers at +150m then..

By #completed buildings + U/C

NYC - 314

Chicago - 137

Miami - 65

LA - 39
Houston - 38

SF - 27
Boston - 23
Seattle - 22
Dallas - 20

Austin - 19
Las Vegas - 17
Atlanta - 17
Philly - 16
Minneapolis - 10
Pittsburgh - 10

Charlotte - 9
Denver - 8
Detroit - 7
Nashville - 5
Baltimore - 4
Portland - 4
NOLA - 4
Cleveland - 4
St. Louis - 4
KC - 4
Cinnci - 2

That being said the juxtaposition between a cities major buildings and the surrounding infill built environment (or lack of) is usually more visually impactful to a cityscapes grandeur than raw height.
Atlanta should be 18, https://1072westpeachtree.com/ is under construction.
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Old 08-10-2023, 12:08 PM
 
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The should help with a visual reference. All renders on Google Earth are from identical distances (2500m), POV angle (83° tilt) centered on the geographic center of their skylines

Nashville


Charlotte


Austin


For comparison sake...

Baltimore


Boston


Infill is just as important to a skyline as its skyscrapers because all visually play are part in the cityscape when viewed from any meaningful distance.

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Old 08-10-2023, 12:26 PM
 
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Just shows skyscrapers dont mean much. Charlotte and Austin both have more skyscrapers, but Baltimore and Boston look far more denser and city like even with much less skyscrapers.


DC has no skyscrapers and is one of the best urban experiences in the country. Meanwhile cities like Charlotte, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. are decked with skyscrapers and the urban experience is poor.
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Old 08-10-2023, 02:49 PM
 
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Just shows skyscrapers dont mean much. Charlotte and Austin both have more skyscrapers, but Baltimore and Boston look far more denser and city like even with much less skyscrapers.


DC has no skyscrapers and is one of the best urban experiences in the country. Meanwhile cities like Charlotte, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. are decked with skyscrapers and the urban experience is poor.
I think another thing is what makes a skyline look “big” or “bulky” is almost always like 200-300ft. That’s why skyscraper numbers are not great measures of skyline size. Other than New York.
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Old 08-10-2023, 03:16 PM
 
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Don't let those trees and aerial shots fool you. There us PLENTY of new infill in all of those cities(Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville).
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Old 08-10-2023, 03:26 PM
 
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I think another thing is what makes a skyline look “big” or “bulky” is almost always like 200-300ft. That’s why skyscraper numbers are not great measures of skyline size. Other than New York.
Comes down to numerics and juxtaposition. Here's LA at the same scale as the other cities for context.


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Old 08-10-2023, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Don't let those trees and aerial shots fool you. There us PLENTY of new infill in all of those cities(Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville).
Nobody said Atlanta, Charlotte or Nashville aren't in-filling.

They simply don't have the political will, zoning polices, dense historic street grids and swaths of existing pre-war buildings to infill anywhere near the intensity as something you'll get in a city like Boston or Baltimore and that is made blatantly evident by those pics.

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Old 08-10-2023, 05:04 PM
 
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Nobody said Atlanta, Charlotte or Nashville aren't in-filling.

They simply don't have the political will, zoning polices, dense historic street grids and swaths of existing pre-war buildings to infill anywhere near the intensity as something you'll get in a city like Boston or Baltimore and that is made blatantly evident by those pics.
Understood
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