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The dirty little secret about Seattle's downtown is that it's dead at night and usually on weekends too, away from the market. Sure, you'll see the yuppies in Belltown and Westlake Center gets pretty crazy at x-mas, but I find those (2 or 3 repeated) shots of downtown Seattle packed with people to be misleading.
I lived there for 5 years and Pittsburgh was such a breath of fresh air. Seattle, which does have its good points, is far too sterile for my taste. Sure, it's in a stunning location, but the city itself is blandness personified. And it's hilarious how that Moderator cut: one word - substitute "other member" said that Pittsburgh (c'mon people, stop being lazy. It's NOT called Pitt or Pitts) people are arrogant and pretentious, qualities that Seattleites have to a T. I'd like to add passive-aggressive, too. The scenery lured me out west and the smugness drove me right back east. Twenty or thirty years ago, Seattle was a backwater, and if it had stayed that way, it would probably be far more charming.
Now, so nobody can accuse me of bashing, let me list the things I love about Seattle: Pike Place Market, West Seattle, Ballard, Asian food, and Vancouver proximity.
Incidentally, my mortgage (including insurance and taxes) on a hillside bungalow overlooking the Ohio River valley and downtown Pittsburgh is about $125 less than the Capitol Hill studio that was my last Seattle residence.
Seattle's downtown though not Montreal, NY or Chicago is certainly pretty nice and quite active imo. Its still growing in many ways with probably one of the largest downtown residential populations of any north american city its size. And compared to downtown Seattle 15 years ago, there really is no comparison. Misleading photos! I don't think so.
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Seattle's downtown though not Montreal, NY or Chicago is certainly pretty nice and quite active imo. Its still growing in many ways with probably one of the largest downtown residential populations of any north american city its size. And compared to downtown Seattle 15 years ago, there really is no comparison. Misleading photos! I don't think so.
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I don't recall saying anything about it being dead during certain times of the year. What times of day were those pictures taken? My guess would be between the hours of 9 and 5, probably on a weekday, right around the market or Westlake Center. Most of the action at night in Seattle is in outlying neighborhoods, as in most mid-sized cities.
Edit: And those pictures are absolutely misleading, because they're from 3 spots. Pike Place Market, Westlake Center, and Pioneer Square, which are three small parts of downtown Seattle, most of which is dead after 5pm, which was my whole point.
I don't recall saying anything about it being dead during certain times of the year. What times of day were those pictures taken? My guess would be between the hours of 9 and 5, probably on a weekday, right around the market or Westlake Center. Most of the action at night in Seattle is in outlying neighborhoods, as in most mid-sized cities.
Edit: And those pictures are absolutely misleading, because they're from 3 spots. Pike Place Market, Westlake Center, and Pioneer Square, which are three small parts of downtown Seattle, most of which is dead after 5pm, which was my whole point.
Actually most of the pics were taken on the weekend. Since downtown Seattle is made up of several different neighborhoods, some parts are, like most cities livlier at night than others. The financial district is dead at night, but Pioneer Square is not. The retail district is what it is, retail. Belltown is pretty live at night, Pike Place Market is not. Wherever you live, is your entire downtown lively at night? Are there thousands of people partying in hundreds of clubs and bars in your entire downtown? I don't think so.
Actually most of the pics were taken on the weekend. Since downtown Seattle is made up of several different neighborhoods, some parts are, like most cities livlier at night than others. The financial district is dead at night, but Pioneer Square is not. The retail district is what it is, retail. Belltown is pretty live at night, Pike Place Market is not. Wherever you live, is your entire downtown lively at night? Are there thousands of people partying in hundreds of clubs and bars in your entire downtown? I don't think so.
This thread is Pittsburgh vs. Seattle. Somebody said Pittsburgh's downtown was dead after 5pm. I said "so is Seattle's, for the most part." I stand by that.
Seattle has nothing like E. Carson St., not even Capitol Hill or Fremont.
This thread is Pittsburgh vs. Seattle. Somebody said Pittsburgh's downtown was dead after 5pm. I said "so is Seattle's, for the most part." I stand by that.
Seattle has nothing like E. Carson St., not even Capitol Hill or Fremont.
The Ave. in the U-district is exactly like E. Carson st. in Pittsburgh.
The Ave. in the U-district is exactly like E. Carson st. in Pittsburgh.
LOL!
I realize Seattle outdoes Pittsburgh in several areas, if that's your thing, but let's not be ridiculous. Unless there's been a huge revitalization of the Ave in the last 2 or 3 years, that's possibly the funniest thing I've read here. Unless you mean the junkies? Or the shuttered businesses? Wait, not much of either on Carson St.
If Broadway was full of bars for its entire length, then maybe it would come close. But, even most of Broadway closes down by 10pm or so. I don't even drink so I avoid E. Carson like the plague at night, but it's the longest unbroken stretch of bars in the country and is FULL of tens of thousands of people every single weekend. The AVE?! Come on.
Edit- Don't get me wrong. When I lived in Seattle, I loved the Ave. It's a great place to get cheap food from all over the world. It's way more like Oakland in Pittsburgh than Carson St., though.
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