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View Poll Results: What is the next "big" city?
Omaha 25 6.78%
Jacksonville 23 6.23%
Charlotte 163 44.17%
Albuquerque 35 9.49%
Riverside 10 2.71%
Oklahoma City 37 10.03%
other, be specific 76 20.60%
Voters: 369. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-14-2009, 07:51 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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I don't really look at municipal populations in this case since San Antonio has a higher city population than Dallas.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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Omaha is over a 100 sq. miles (it's land area is actually larger than Minneapolis-St. Paul combined) and its density is somewhere around 3600 per square mile. That's hardly dense.
I wasn't speaking of density. I was speaking of city planning which is not conducive to suburban sprawl. (Creating multiple city centers, Freeway designs, infrastructure layout, annexation, etc)

Omaha has a higher population than Minneapolis, what did you expect? The Minneapolis suburbs surround the city and they have taken the form of sprawl for them.

In Omaha's case, they have annexed many surrounding suburbs to keep themselves from being enclosed and therefore have absorbs some of the sprawl that was present.

It's hard to explain, but an Omaha/Minneapolis comparison just doesn't work.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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I wasn't speaking of density. I was speaking of city planning which is not conducive to suburban sprawl. (Creating multiple city centers, Freeway designs, infrastructure layout, annexation, etc)

Omaha has a higher population than Minneapolis, what did you expect? The Minneapolis suburbs surround the city and they have taken the form of sprawl for them.

In Omaha's case, they have annexed many surrounding suburbs to keep themselves from being enclosed and therefore have absorbs some of the sprawl that was present.

It's hard to explain, but an Omaha/Minneapolis comparison just doesn't work.
I wasn't talking about suburban sprawl either. I stated the listed cities are a sprawling mess meaning they are very large in terms of land area and also in terms of development.

BTW, saying that city of over 100 sq. miles (Omaha) has a larger population than a city that is 55 sq. miles (Minneapolis) doesn't mean much. Anyway, you're right, an Omaha/Minneapolis comparison doesn't work as the two cities are in different leagues.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Oil City, PA. has the low home prices that people are looking for
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:47 PM
 
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I wish I could have added Jersey City and Austin to this poll. San Antonio was left out because it already is a "big" city, to some people. Nashville and Memphis too were left out because they are nice sized cities but are pretty well-known and popular. I couldn't think of any cities in the mid-west by Minneapolis to put on here so that there would be an even geographic representation. I appreciate all the responses so far and I am amazed at how many have picked Charlotte. I figured Jacksonville and OK City would give it a run for the money.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX.
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Those are all already big cities........
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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None of the above.
What city would you say?
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Actually. It's not way bigger at all. They are roughly the same size. Now historically, San Antonio is the bigger city. But Austin has made up ground within the past 20 years.
Bexar County (San Antonio) 1,392,000
Travis County (Austin) 812,000
Cameron/Hidalgo Counties (Rio Grande Valley) 909,000, plus 929,000 in adjacent Matamoros and Reynosa, Mexico, total 1,838,000. Pretty close to the size of Austin and San Antonio put together.
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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I wasn't talking about suburban sprawl either. I stated the listed cities are a sprawling mess meaning they are very large in terms of land area and also in terms of development.

BTW, saying that city of over 100 sq. miles (Omaha) has a larger population than a city that is 55 sq. miles (Minneapolis) doesn't mean much. Anyway, you're right, an Omaha/Minneapolis comparison doesn't work as the two cities are in different leagues.
HAHA, do you absolutely insist on NOT knowing what you are talking about? Do you even have a good understanding of what sprawl really is? It's not as simple as population vrs. land area.

Sprawlmanac Metro Fact Sheet (http://www.smartgrowthamerica.org/sprawlindex/factsheet_omaha.html - broken link)

"At the other end of the scale, the metro area with the highest overall score is, not surprisingly, New York City, closely followed by Jersey City just across the Hudson River. (New York and Jersey City are such extreme “outliers” that they were excluded from most of the comparative analysis discussed later in the report.) Providence, San Francisco, and Honolulu round out the top five most compact metros, followed by Omaha, NE, Boston, Portland, OR, Miami, and New Orleans. "

http://www.smartgrowthamerica.org/sprawlindex/sprawlexecsum.html (broken link)

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Old 01-14-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Chariton, Iowa
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Those are all already big cities........
I was just thinking about that. Here's some smaller cities that seem on the verge of big things...

Sioux Falls, SD
Boise, ID
Asheville, NC
Wichita, KS
Des Moines, IA
Madison, WI
Odessa-Midland, TX
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