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15 Coolest North American cities according to MSN Travel
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1. Washington DC
2. New Orleans LA
3. Chicago IL
4. Santa Fe NM
5. Denver CO
6. Savannah GA
7. New York City NY
8. Vancouver BC
9. Philadelphia PA
10. Boston MA
11. Las Vegas NV
12. Minneapolis MN
13. Nashville TN
14. Austin TX
15. Portland OR
I'll accept the crime thing but I am still skeptical. It seems unbelievable that LA has a lower crime rate than Denver. But then again maybe that pretentious hollywood boosterism of LA being a big bad city has skewed many of our perceptions (cops tv shows, gang problems etc on tv).
But of course now you want to use LA's metro to support it having more pro teams. Half of LA's pro teams arent even in the city limits and some even exist in the OC. But hey nobody here is calling you inconsistent. I mean when it comes to crime data its all about the city proper for you which excludes compton, engelwood and other hard core ghettos. But when it comes to sports teams you have no problem including the OC and Anaheim. I am starting to understand your thinking now...
The LA crime rate also excludes many nice, low crime cities too like Beverly Hills, Malibu, Palos Verdes, etc..same difference there, but of course you'll only focus on the ghetto ones to fit your viewpoint, pretty typical of your thinking.
Even if you exclude the Angelsand Ducks, LA has four sports team within its city limits. Three of which play at the same arena and the other plays at a stadium only a few miles north, so your claim that
"Half of LA's pro teams arent even in the city limits" is just flat out wrong, but I'm sure you'll find a way to interpret the facts to fit your viewpoint.
We could, but that's not the point of this particular thread....
I'm just trying to help those poor souls in LA to realize how deluded they are in thinking that their city possesses any measure of greatness at all. Acceptance is the first step on the road to recovery. Not that I want them to move away or anything, but maybe they could spend a little less time bragging about the smoggy warmth and more time picking up garbage or something.
You could say the same thing about Denver or any city in America. To each their own, different people have different opinions on what makes a city desirable to them. I never even said anything negative about Denver but apparently when I correct misconceptions and incorrect statements about LA some posters interpret that as me saying something negative on Denver.
You could say the same thing about Denver or any city in America.
Yes, you could. It just would not be as true as with LA. If you ever get out of there for an extended period, then you'll know what I mean.
I've not reviewed the statistics you're using to try to 'prove' your point about lower crime rates in LA, but it doesn't really matter, because my own comparative experiences have convinced me beyond persuasion that LA streets are MUCH scarier than Denver.
So, besides the now four "not a member" voters on the LA side, why did you guys vote for LA?
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So that's 45-14=31 for LA and 38 for Denver. Denver is up by a touchdown and it's inside the 2 minute warning.
Yes, you could. It just would not be as true as with LA. If you ever get out of there for an extended period, then you'll know what I mean.
That's your subjective opinion of course and not everyone sees things like you do, so don't assume I or anyone else will. And in case you didn't notice I don't live in Los Angeles.
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I've not reviewed the statistics you're using to try to 'prove' your point about lower crime rates in LA, but it doesn't really matter, because my own comparative experiences have convinced me beyond persuasion that LA streets are MUCH scarier than Denver.
cool, I'm not talking about your experiance at all and don't care, I'm just showing what the statistics say and that's it.
The LA crime rate also excludes many nice, low crime cities too like Beverly Hills, Malibu, Palos Verdes, etc..same difference there, but of course you'll only focus on the ghetto ones to fit your viewpoint, pretty typical of your thinking.
Even if you exclude the Angles and Ducks, LA has four sports team within its city limits. Three of which play at the same arena and the other plays at a stadium only a few miles north, so your claim that
"Half of LA's pro teams arent even in the city limits" is just flat out wrong, but I'm sure you'll find a way to interpret the facts to fit your viewpoint.
If we compare the LA metro to Denver metro the crime rate changes as well as the pro teams count. But I thought this thread was about the two city limits?
The home depot center (4 pro teams) is in the city of Carson. The ducks and LAA are in Anaheim (2 pro teams). LA =
6 in city (7 adding LAA). 12 in greater Area.
Denver has nine in the city minus MLS in commerence city. Denver city = 8, metro = 9
So which is it for you? LA metro vs Denver metro or LA city vs Denver city? I'd like to know so I can hold you to a position...
If we compare the LA metro to Denver metro the crime rate changes as well as the pro teams count. But I thought this thread was about the two city limits?
The home depot center (4 pro teams) is in the city of Carson. The ducks and LAA are in Anaheim (2 pro teams). LA =
6 in city (7 adding LAA). 12 in greater Area.
Denver has nine in the city minus MLS in commerence city. Denver city = 8, metro = 9
So which is it for you? LA metro vs Denver metro or LA city vs Denver city? I'd like to know so I can hold you to a position...
Just to satisfy you and so I don't have to keep arguing about this use city limits for sports teams, which I ALREADY DID in the previous post. I am just looking at the 4 major sports leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL), which I ALREADY stated as well, if you want to include MLS go ahead I am not going to. And in that case all of LA's pro sports team are located within the city. That's all I am saying about it b/c you're just going to continue to find ways to knock LA, make Denver look good, interpret it however you want to fit your viewpoint and argue about it forever.
Just to satisfy you and so I don't have to keep arguing about this use city limits for sports teams, which I ALREADY DID in the previous post. I am just looking at the 4 major sports leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL), which I ALREADY stated as well, if you want to include MLS go ahead I am not going to. And in that case all of LA's pro sports team are located within the city. That's all I am saying about it b/c you're just going to continue to find ways to knock LA, make Denver look good, interpret it however you want to fit your viewpoint and argue about it forever.
Ok great the four major sports teams.
Denver has NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA = 4
LA has NHL, MLB, NBA = 3
Denver wins by a Bronco touchdown!!!
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