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Absolutely it does. As long as the fives miles in still in the city or headed east of downtown. Some of the suburbs around Pittsburgh are very dense also. Especially the boroughs.
You bring up "highrises". That's a good point. Let's say that you have a nabe that is 3 Sq miles big. Now you have a few highrises in that nabe that are heavily populated. The rest of that nabe can be sparsley populated with big homes and big lots, but the "highrises" will artificially make the DENSITY numbers higher than they really are. Another words, the nabes density won't really reflect it's high density numbers. You see how the density is pretty evenly spread around in Pittsburgh.
This is why when I say that the sunbelt won't ever be as dense. For that VERY reason. Sure they can improve their DENSITY numbers with highrises. But the nabes will NEVER reflect them the way they do in cities like Pittsburgh. You can see how DENSE Pittsburgh would be 'if' it didn't lose more than half of it's population. They don't build nabes like the ones you see in those Pittsburgh pics anymore, they just don't, those days are long gone. Whole nabes filled with rowhouses will NEVER be built again.
What about Miami? Isnt Miami a sunbelt city, isnt it dense with highrises? What about Miami Beach? Isnt it denser then Miami with more highrises?
I keep reading over and over how northern cities are denser and Sunbelt cities have sprawl... so what! I have read newspaper articles by city planners here in San Antonio about the city's aggressive annexation policy. What was stated was they didn't want the city to find itself like some other cities ST Louis, Detroit as examples. Those cities are land locked with no future growth just infill. They didn't want to be a city ringed with wealthier suburbs that contribute no tax base to the center city and the center city left to rot with a dwindling tax base and suburban flight. They stated everybody that lived in close proximity to S.A. and the vast majority worked in S.A. and enjoyed city amenities would pay their fair share, I agree. Many new subdivisions are built just past the city limit line and are in the county and developers promote "no city taxes" sooner or later they will be annexed. Raw annexed land also comes under stricter building codes, code compliance, managed growth etc. than county land; huge tracts on the Southside near the Toyota plant were annexed for this reason. There are around 30 incorporated cities around S.A. some dating as far back as the 1920's and some completely surrounded by S.A. on all sides, almost all under 10,000 in population and their per square miles are small. I have nothing against northeastern cities and have been to most of the large ones the pics of Philadelphia were great.
^^^Very true. Some of those northern cities are so segregated by the wealthy, and poor inner-city folks. 8mile in Detroit is an example, those cities left there inner-cities to decay.
^^^Very true. Some of those northern cities are so segregated by the wealthy, and poor inner-city folks. 8mile in Detroit is an example, those cities left there inner-cities to decay.
I was reading a thread, some time back don't remember where from people in the Detroit area. I was surprised by the us (suburban cities) against them (Detroit proper) attitude, I'm sure not all Detroit area residents feel that way. My in-laws are from Detroit and said it was a wonderful place back in the 50's they retired in San Antonio. Detroit has given the world the automobile and Motown music no small feat.
I know! Everyone is so stupid outside of Pittsburgh!
Who is "they"? The person who took the photo labeled it that way - there is no "they" involved. The fact that this comment is all you could come up with is just another testament to your resentment toward cities you don't understand - your "sunbelt cities".
I am the person who took the photo. Yes, I know those aren't genuine brownstones, yet they aren't exactly rowhomes either. They sort of reminded me of brownstones, but that doesn't mean they are. This is why I titled the photo as such. And, yes, I am familiar with different types of architecture, especially in the north. Former transplant of sorts myself...
I am the person who took the photo. Yes, I know those aren't genuine brownstones, yet they aren't exactly rowhomes either. They sort of reminded me of brownstones, but that doesn't mean they are. This is why I titled the photo as such. And, yes, I am familiar with different types of architecture, especially in the north. Former transplant of sorts myself...
You take some great photos...thanks for speaking up. I love the architecture in Winston-Salem and the way much of the newer construction compliments the historic fabric of the city.
Find it sad that the sunbelt cities STILL can't win when it comes to some posters. Even when they are not doing the norm as some of the older cities and are much more dense, cohesive, and more interesting, they are still looked at as trash. BTW, I love rowhomes and brownstones. Cities in the South and West do not have those (but can easily get rowhomes though). However, these alternatives are not as bad as some posters are making it.
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I love the architecture in Winston-Salem and the way much of the newer construction compliments the historic fabric of the city.
