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Old 05-02-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Excellent point
Not really. It's more like the opposite. New Jersey is basically a suburb of both Philly and New York and both those cities are a huge reason why New Jersey has the population and economic base that it has.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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Not really. It's more like the opposite. New Jersey is basically a suburb of both Philly and New York and both those cities are a huge reason why New Jersey has the population and economic base that it has.
I did not know that NJ was the suburbs of NYC and Philly

Thanks for telling everyone that because you just reinforced my point!!!
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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Not really. It's more like the opposite. New Jersey is basically a suburb of both Philly and New York and both those cities are a huge reason why New Jersey has the population and economic base that it has.
I guess it was only a matter of time before the NJ haters showed up.

Your post just proves that you know absolutely nothing about NJ.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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How can New Jersey surpass both Pennsylvania & Illinois? Also Florida may not be the same magnitude of Pennsylvania & Illinois.
You shouldn't underestimate New Jersey just because it's so small.

-It has one of the most refineries and dumps in the country to run the biggest metro in the country
-It's one of the most richest states.
-Princeton and 3 Rutgers are all top notch Universities all in NJ.
-It has the longest boardwalk in the country, and it's in Atlantic City which grosses a lot of money as it is.
-Port Newark-Elizabeth serves as a principal container ship factory for goods entering and leaving the NYC metro AND the Northeastern region of the US, (The largest container port in the Eastern region and the 3rd largest in the country)
-Newark airport is one of the busiest airports in the country (7th busiest) busier than La Guardia
-Paramus, NJ is known for having one of the highest retail sales per person ratios in the nation... And that town has the STRICTEST blue laws at the same time
-New Jersey's is ranked fifth among the states in revenues from tourism.
-Its median household income is the 2nd highest in the nation.
-2 of the NY football teams play on NJ soil and NJ operates 50% of it; It's the most EXPENSIVE stadium in the country (and NY bought it off NJ) ahead of the Dallas Cowboys new stadium


NJ is definitely a huge "Super State" since it has sooo much going for itself for being such a small state.

Philly and NYC would fall apart if NJ just disapeared.

Whether you think it looks hideous on the NJ Turnpike 95 around Linden and Elizabeth. it's all raking in billions of dollars and offering the most jobs in one compacted area in the country.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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^ Don't forget about all of the people that commute to work everyday into NYC and Philly that run those big companies

Also, don't forget about the Nets and Devils
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Teaneck, NJ
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^ Don't forget about all of the people that commute to work everyday into NYC and Philly that run those big companies

Also, don't forget about the Nets and Devils
O yea, that's a given since it's considered a metro. That's what i meant when i said NYC and Philly would fall apart if NJ disappeared.
ome people really do underestimate NJ's power.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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California
New York
Texas
Florida
Illinois

fifth could go to a few states though- Mass, NJ, even Michigan when the Auto industry was doing well
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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What's your list of the top 5 states in the nation that can be considered "super" states in terms of commerce\ influence\ lifestyle\ tourism\ inter-national trade\ universities, etc. Not just the 5 most populous states.
Some people are having heartburn about NJ being mentioned in the Top 5 but if you understand the state then it wouldn't be much of a shock.

Commerce-Within the borders of NJ are a large percentage of Fortune 500 companies, either headquartered or represented. The NJ Turnpike is arguably the most famous and busiest highway in America.

Influence- A tiny state in the corner of America has produced some of the most famous names in entertainment. Sinatra, Houston, Nicholson, Cruise, Springsteen, the names go on and on. Movies and television shows have been made about NJ. The "tough guy" persona that has come to represent Jersey has been exported throughout the country.

Lifestyle- Nowhere else in this country do you have such diversity in lifestyles. Urban, suburban, beach, rural,all located no more than 45 minutes from each other in any direction.

Tourism-Atlantic City alone probably generates more money than entire states do off of tourism.

International trade- See my first response. And being that a huge number of NJ'ers work in Manhatten and Philly, to a large extent they're responsible for much of the international trade that happens. Remember that close to 1,000 NJ residents died in the WTC on 9/11. That's a lot of businessmen and women.

Universities- Aside from Princeton, Seton Hall law school, NJIT, and Rutgers-NB are all internationally respected schools.

Keep in mind that NJ is able to do all of this without having a major "flagship" city.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Interesting note on California.

Even if we take away the entire LA Megalopolis and its 18 Million residents, California is still left with a $ 1 Trillion Economy.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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1. California (has two major world cities, huge population, has forests, nice beaches, ski resorts, deserts, Disney Land, vineyards, tech industry etc.)
2. New York (even though texas is bigger in pop and gdp, NYC is just too influential and has good universities)
3. Texas (Houston-medical/space, Dallas-oil, no outstanding universities)
4. Illinois (Great universities, transportation hub, 2nd largest stock exchange in America)
5. Florida (the recession hit it hard, there are no major universities or cities)
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