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I can guess only ignorance has left Cleveland's RTA out of the conversation.
It has 50 heavy rail/light rail stations split among 4 different lines, including service to the airport covering 37 miles and ridership of 11K per day
Chicago has been mostly modernizing a 100 year-old system. $2.1 billion on the Red/Purple Line Modernization Program. 10-miles of new tracks, 4 new stations and the Belmont Flyover. Another notable north-side project was the $203 million Wilson station.
$500 million spent on phase-one of the Blue-Line's 'Your New Blue' program which includes track, station and signal upgrades/reconstruction. Another $268 million on the Forest Park branch that includes 3 miles of new track and a rebuilt Racine station. Two new Fulton Market Green/Pink Line stations at Morgan and Damen (United Center). Then the planning, approvals and fundraising for the $4 billion Red-Line extension project was achieved over the last decade.
You're right: if Pittsburgh is included in this poll, Cleveland should have been as well.
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Edited to add: Never mind; I see you found it.
Where would you rank Cleveland and Pittsburgh?
As mentioned earlier my top 10:
1. NYC
2. DC
3. Chicago
4. Philly
5. Boston
6. SF
7. LA
8. Seattle
9/10 (tie/unsure). Atlanta/Denver
11-15 is harder to rank in order but I would add to this tier Dallas, SLC, Portland, San Diego, and Miami. Not sure where to rank Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore among this group.
After that the next tier is MPLS, Charlotte, Phoenix, Houston (pretty much every other city/misc.).
1. NYC
2. DC
3. Chicago
4. Philly
5. Boston
6. SF
7. LA
8. Seattle
9/10 (tie/unsure). Atlanta/Denver
11-15 is harder to rank in order but I would add to this tier Dallas, SLC, Portland, San Diego, and Miami. Not sure where to rank Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore among this group.
After that the next tier is MPLS, Charlotte, Phoenix, Houston (pretty much every other city/misc.).
My list is he same 1 through 8 except that you've sorted 4-6 which I don't have a good handle on.
I do think that Atlanta is at 9 and separated from Dallas and Denver, which I would probably put at 10 and 11. I can see a case for Atlanta being ahead of Seattle given the size difference. It's just that Seattle is doing things so well.
I could also see Portland maybe being ahead of Denver at least until Denver starts getting more development around stations. It's new so I get it, but for now I think that Denver wins the title for the most stations next to nothing. Also, I find Denver's system map that includes both light rail and commuter rail to be confusing.
I feel like with the GLX at least technically the MBTA should be higher than SEPTA. Considering it reduced its “downtown terminating†likes to 1, while Philly still has two
I feel like with the GLX at least technically the MBTA should be higher than SEPTA. Considering it reduced its “downtown terminating†likes to 1, while Philly still has two
Probably. Boston is clearly way ahead of SF and Philly on total ridership for heavy, light, and commuter rail. SF and Philly are close given Philly's commuter rail ridership but it lags in the other two as of 2019.
My list is he same 1 through 8 except that you've sorted 4-6 which I don't have a good handle on.
I do think that Atlanta is at 9 and separated from Dallas and Denver, which I would probably put at 10 and 11. I can see a case for Atlanta being ahead of Seattle given the size difference. It's just that Seattle is doing things so well.
I could also see Portland maybe being ahead of Denver at least until Denver starts getting more development around stations. It's new so I get it, but for now I think that Denver wins the title for the most stations next to nothing. Also, I find Denver's system map that includes both light rail and commuter rail to be confusing.
Yes, Seattle is doing things well and has better intentions, forward thinking. One thing that gives Seattle an advantage is it's a linear metro so you can connect a lot of notes with a north-south line, and just a few spurs going to the east of Lake Washington like to Bellevue, Issaquah, Redmond, Kirkland, etc.
I wasn't sure about Denver because it also appears to be doing well, #3 for how much it accomplished this century after LA and Seattle.
Yes, Seattle is doing things well and has better intentions, forward thinking. One thing that gives Seattle an advantage is it's a linear metro so you can connect a lot of notes with a north-south line, and just a few spurs going to the east of Lake Washington like to Bellevue, Issaquah, Redmond, Kirkland, etc.
I wasn't sure about Denver because it also appears to be doing well, #3 for how much it accomplished this century after LA and Seattle.
Yeah, Seattle has built in advantages but has also done very well with how they've built.
Not in this discussion and clearly top 3, WMATA has also built a ton this century. With 22 new heavy rail stations it's arguably done the most. Seattle, Dallas, and Denver have probably done the most percentage-wise.
Yeah, Seattle has built in advantages but has also done very well with how they've built.
Not in this discussion and clearly top 3, WMATA has also built a ton this century. With 22 new heavy rail stations it's arguably done the most. Seattle, Dallas, and Denver have probably done the most percentage-wise.
Even though Washington is a city in the South, it and Baltimore get included in the Northeast region.
The nation's second-busiest subway system is therefore not eliglbla for inclusion on this particuar list.
Even though Washington is a city in the South, it and Baltimore get included in the Northeast region.
The nation's second-busiest subway system is therefore not eliglbla for inclusion on this particuar list.
On which planet? Those who have moved on from the importance of the Mason-Dixon Line would agree DC-Baltimore is part of the Northeast. If DC is "the South", so is Cincinnati and St Louis.
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