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View Poll Results: Massachusetts Vs New Jersey
MA 193 57.10%
NJ 145 42.90%
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Old 01-08-2024, 01:53 PM
 
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Marthas Vineyard and Nantucket, and most of the Mass coastline are more scenic than any Jersey Shore beach. I'll say that much. But as far as where the elite goes on vacation; who cares about those people and where they go? Part of the Jersey Shore's appeal is its accessibility and variety of destinations to a broader range of demographics and middle class families. It also offers a better variety of amenities and entertainment right at the beach.
These people have the means an ability to go literally everywhere. And they go to Nantucket. That speaks to the quality of the place.

Plus he said Cape May or Asbury Park were equivalent to Nantucket or Martha’s Vinyard. And they are pretty obviously not the same kind of place.
Just like people from NJ/NY go to the Berkshires. They choose it over the more accessible NNJ highlands. Because it’s better.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:04 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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These people have the means an ability to go literally everywhere. And they go to Nantucket. That speaks to the quality of the place.

Plus he said Cape May or Asbury Park were equivalent to Nantucket or Martha’s Vinyard. And they are pretty obviously not the same kind of place.
Just like people from NJ/NY go to the Berkshires. They choose it over the more accessible NNJ highlands. Because it’s better.
Eh... bringing it back down to earth, I've skied awesome slopes in the Colorado Rockies and been to many beautiful mountain towns out there; but going Aspen never crossed my mind as its elite status is off putting. I feel the same way about Nantucket. Jersey Shore gives you a better bang for the buck when booking a beach vacation. Because there's more to do right at the beach and a better variety of destinations and beach towns to choose from.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:10 PM
 
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Eh... bringing it back down to earth, I've skied awesome slopes in the Colorado Rockies and been to many beautiful mountain towns out there; but going Aspen never crossed my mind as its elite status is off putting. I feel the same way about Nantucket. Jersey Shore gives you a better bang for the buck when booking a beach vacation. Because there's more to do right at the beach and a better variety of destinations and beach towns to choose from.
Aspen has elite status cause it’s objectively better than like Berkshire East. Not just randomly out of thin air
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:13 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Aspen has elite status cause it’s objectively better than like Berkshire East. Not just randomly out of thin air
You twisted my point, there are several other mountain towns in Colorado that offer as good of quality for a mountain vacation experience as elitist Aspen. Berkshire East is neither here nor there and a bit out of context.

Cape May is not the answer to Marthas Vineyard, but it stands on its own as one of the best beach towns on the East Coast nonetheless.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-us-by-state/

Also statistically Massachusetts has 1 restaurant per 505 residents and NJ 1 per 577 residents.

The facts do not show there are more places to go in New Jersey
Way wayyy more local restaurants in walkable areas. Ive extensively lived in both states. NJ wins there.

Why are you so defensive over this?
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Way wayyy more local restaurants in walkable areas. Ive extensively lived in both states. NJ wins there.
When anecdote goes up against data, data wins.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:47 PM
 
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Way wayyy more local restaurants in walkable areas. Ive extensively lived in both states. NJ wins there.

Why are you so defensive over this?
But that’s not true.

It’s actually demonstrably false. You get that answer by factoring out places in Massachusetts that well outstrip anywhere in NJ (you know, anywhere near Boston) the fact is NJ loses a lot of people every day due to commuting. So lots of restaurants that should be in NJ are actually in New York or Pennsylvania.

Although Massachusetts does have a plethora of like ~10-25 location “local chains” so depending on your definition of local restaurants, you might be correct.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:50 PM
 
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You twisted my point, there are several other mountain towns in Colorado that offer as good of quality for a mountain vacation experience as elitist Aspen. Berkshire East is neither here nor there and a bit out of context.

Cape May is not the answer to Marthas Vineyard, but it stands on its own as one of the best beach towns on the East Coast nonetheless.
I don’t think there is a huge difference in demographics between Aspen, Breckinridge, Telluride, and Vail. Especially in the Mega Pass era where everyone has access to everywhere now.

But the general point that places get exclusive for a reason is true.
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Old 01-08-2024, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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When anecdote goes up against data, data wins.
Restaurants per capita, is not data to what we are talking about lol. NJ has more TOD/residents per capita, theres quite literally no space left lol
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Old 01-08-2024, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Restaurants per capita, is not data to what we are talking about lol. NJ has more TOD/residents per capita, theres quite literally no space left lol
Never been to Willingboro I see...
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