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Many of those buildings are virtually done though, just having their finishing touches put on. And the real product is never vastly different from the rendering. It might not look as shiny or whatever, but it's not completely different.
No. I never mentioned the CN Tower. I mentioned a bunch of new buildings and gave links to them. If you disagree that they are spectacular, tell me which ones specifically you don't think are spectacular, and WHY. There are a huge variety of architecture that I linked to. If you don't think any of those are spectacular, I'd like to see some examples of new buildings in other cities that you think ARE spectacular. Because the variety of styles going up in Toronto is so great, I can guarantee you that Toronto has similar looking buildings under construction to the ones in other cities that you do think are spectacular.
Toronto has dozens of new towers that are better looking than the TransAmerica pyramid. Look at the links I posted. One Bloor, Aura, Ice, RC3, E-Condos, Hullmark Centre, etc. all look nicer.
Once again, I base my opinions on completed buildings unless there is a rendering which really amazes me. A jazzed up drawing or computer animation hardly ever shows how a building will realistically look.
But give honestly a lot of the buildings you gave me links for even have terrible renderings. And I never said that the transamerica looked great, I said it would be the most notable building in Toronto after the CN Tower(though not technically a building). Aura simply looks like a tall glass condo. There is no special design, nothing to catch your eye. Nothing that makes it stand out other than its location near Dundas and that its fairly tall. RC3 is honestly one of the ugliest designs I've ever seen.
That is one of the worst designs I have ever seen. Its "ultra modern" gone far astray.
One Bloor and Ice have the potential to be great structures, but as I said before, you can't really base a buildings actual appearance from renderings.
The Hullmark Centre? Really? This is better than the Transamerica building????
One Bloor and Ice have the potential to be great structures, but as I said before, you can't really base a buildings actual appearance from renderings.
But I'm not. Ice is almost complete. And it looks spectacular in person.
Toronto's skyline is so much more massive than Seattle's that it's really not much of a competition. That's from a Seattle homer that's traveled to Toronto frequently for work. It's kind of like other large skylines (NYC, Chicago, Miami) in that it's too large to view all at once and therefore not as aesthetically pleasing as something like the view of Seattle from Kerry Park. Seattle has the symmetry, natural backdrop, and iconic landmark going for it but not the volume of buildings. That being said, it is ahead of the game and developing faster than the majority of its direct competitors in the states.
Once again, I base my opinions on completed buildings unless there is a rendering which really amazes me. A jazzed up drawing or computer animation hardly ever shows how a building will realistically look.
But give honestly a lot of the buildings you gave me links for even have terrible renderings. And I never said that the transamerica looked great, I said it would be the most notable building in Toronto after the CN Tower(though not technically a building). Aura simply looks like a tall glass condo. There is no special design, nothing to catch your eye. Nothing that makes it stand out other than its location near Dundas and that its fairly tall. RC3 is honestly one of the ugliest designs I've ever seen.
That is one of the worst designs I have ever seen. Its "ultra modern" gone far astray.
One Bloor and Ice have the potential to be great structures, but as I said before, you can't really base a buildings actual appearance from renderings.
The Hullmark Centre? Really? This is better than the Transamerica building????
There is nothing wrong with Aura and if you look at it in the skyline and in person it is quite impressive and elegant. You say all condo's in Toronto are green but clearly this isnt.. So even though it goes against the grain that you claim is only representative of Toronto's new development all it is to you is an ugly condo. Why dont you reserve judgement for when you see it in person. I respect the right to an opinion it is yours to have but you are coming off just a tad if its a building in Toronto it must be a fail. The truth is you just arent a fan of the designs and architecture and they arent your cup of tea but your own opinion doesnt negate those of others who are complimentary of some of the new devs in Toronto.
And I never said that the transamerica looked great, I said it would be the most notable building in Toronto after the CN Tower(though not technically a building).
LOL. It wouldn't even be in the top 10 in Toronto. You want some examples of COMPLETED buildings in Toronto that are better than Transamerica?
Scotia Plaza
Brookfield Place (formerly BCE Place)
Four Seasons
Shangri-La
Ritz Carlton
First Bank Tower
Trump Tower (as much as I hate Donald Trump)
There is nothing wrong with Aura and if you look at it in the skyline and in person it is quite impressive and elegant. You say all condo's in Toronto are green but clearly this isnt.. So even though it goes against the grain that you claim is only representative of Toronto's new development all it is to you is an ugly condo. Why dont you reserve judgement for when you see it in person. I respect the right to an opinion it is yours to have but you are coming off just a tad if its a building in Toronto it must be a fail. The truth is you just arent a fan of the designs and architecture and they arent your cup of tea but your own opinion doesnt negate those of others who are complimentary of some of the new devs in Toronto.
First off, I never said that "All" condos are ugly green ones or that even "all" condos in Toronto are ugly. Of course, 100% of construction will not be, and is not "ugly." However, I do agree with many, including a huge number of Torontonians, even on city data, who view much of the construction as unimpressive and in many cases- fairly ugly. Of course it doesn't mean that I find every building as ugly- there is no such thing as a skyline with absolutely no decent designs. I do however feel that Toronto can do much better.
This is a pretty bland building. Its not a bad building, but nothing to brag about at all. It's kind of similar to the Bank of America building in SF, which isn't that impressive at all.
This is actually a nice building. I have no qualm with anyone thinking this is better than the Transamerica. It has good height, a modern, futuristic design. This is a nice building imo that I would enjoy seeing in any skyline.
Can you please explain what is remotely nice about this building? Its by far the blandest of those you listed and its only redeeming quality is its decent height of almost 1,000 feet. Its large, but has no unique characteristics that set it apart from any bland building.
First off, I never said that "All" condos are ugly green ones or that even "all" condos in Toronto are ugly. Of course, 100% of construction will not be, and is not "ugly." However, I do agree with many, including a huge number of Torontonians, even on city data, who view much of the construction as unimpressive and in many cases- fairly ugly. Of course it doesn't mean that I find every building as ugly- there is no such thing as a skyline with absolutely no decent designs. I do however feel that Toronto can do much better.
Lots of cities can do better but most with huge developments in the last decade - especially condo devs are not able to crank out great designs througout. Look at the Asian cities, lots of building going on and none are building like NYC or Chicago of the past. If you are going to build in quantity to meet demand well can't be endlessly picky.
Not everone in Toronto dislikes our designs and I doubt it is a huge number unless you count Boticelli 20 times. Aura, Ice, 88 Scott, Massey Tower and a few others are striking and quite frankly I personally like each of these better that Transamerica Pyramid. Few cities can boast a supertall Gehry and most likely twin supertall Fosters coming down the pipe that brings further cred to a city that already has Libeskinds, an I.M Pei, a Stone, a cluster of Van Der Rohe's etc..
You also have to look at what condo's represent and that is growth and densification. One can harp on how they subjectively think Toronto can do better at the designs of the tremendous number of developments this city is absorbing, but what these projects ultimately do is bring people closer together and into an ever more dynamic core. No city in the U.S or Canada comes close to population growth in its core than Toronto except NYC so for us we look at that more as more of a positive than the horrible injustce of some banal glass buildings.
This is a pretty bland building. Its not a bad building, but nothing to brag about at all. It's kind of similar to the Bank of America building in SF, which isn't that impressive at all.
This is actually a nice building. I have no qualm with anyone thinking this is better than the Transamerica. It has good height, a modern, futuristic design. This is a nice building imo that I would enjoy seeing in any skyline.
Can you please explain what is remotely nice about this building? Its by far the blandest of those you listed and its only redeeming quality is its decent height of almost 1,000 feet. Its large, but has no unique characteristics that set it apart from any bland building.
Not bad. Good, slightly futuristic and elegant design. A nice condo
How anyone can say that Scotia Plaza, one of the finest PoMo buildings ever constructed is bland well I just can't take that lol.. You also realize that FCP is a Stone design - the same Stone behind Aon tower in Chicago. I bet you think Van Der Rohe and Pei's masterpieces in Toronto are bland too... You've lost all credibility now lol.
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