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Old 02-18-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: BALTIMORE, MD
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Yeah I know but the end effect, as in what most people will get out of it, would be that Philadelphia is part of NY's sphere of influence.
I love Philly but people do think that...IDK why...Philly is one of the largest and most influential cities in the country, how can it be in someone else's sphere of influence.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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most of commuter overlap is close to the MSA borders. Both cities retain an independant identity

Few (especially as a percentage) commute from Baltimore proper to DC proper or vice versa - though it can be done and some do.

Now Greenbelt to Columbia etc is definately a complex commuter flow as they bascically are just miles apart yet different MSAs
I commute from Baltimore City to DC for work. I actually know quite a few people who do. My fire house alone has probably eight of us that make the commute. Baltimore is cheaper and it's a completely different city. I prefer the people, the blue collar neighborhoods, and the actual character and culture. In my opinion, it's much more pleasant to live in.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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I love Philly but people do think that...IDK why...Philly is one of the largest and most influential cities in the country, how can it be in someone else's sphere of influence.
Because Philly is only 45 miles from NYC (border-to-border, as the crow flies).
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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Because Philly is only 45 miles from NYC (border-to-border, as the crow flies).
True (actually I thought it was 55 but whatever), but that's kind of a misleading statistic. Nobody is trying to get from northeast Philly to southwest Staten Island.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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True (actually I thought it was 55 but whatever), but that's kind of a misleading statistic. Nobody is trying to get from northeast Philly to southwest Staten Island.
My point is that in some ways, Philly is already in NY's sphere of influence because the cities are so close. And at some point, Philly will become part of NY's CSA, and thus it will become a NY suburb. Remember, there is only one county between Philly and Trenton, which is now part of the NY CSA.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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This thread went longer than 1 page.... really?

Anyway the answer to the thread's question is no.... just NO!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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My point is that in some ways, Philly is already in NY's sphere of influence because the cities are so close. And at some point, Philly will become part of NY's CSA, and thus it will become a NY suburb. Remember, there is only one county between Philly and Trenton, which is now part of the NY CSA.
Lol. No it's not... Nothing to do with eachother honestly. Not even economically. Not commercially. Not in any way. Like Chicago is to Cleveland.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Lol. No it's not... Nothing to do with eachother honestly. Not even economically. Not commercially. Not in any way. Like Chicago is to Cleveland.
It's funny when you think about it. You leave the NYC area, and immediately enter the DC area.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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Lol. No it's not... Nothing to do with eachother honestly. Not even economically. Not commercially. Not in any way. Like Chicago is to Cleveland.
But Cleveland and Chicago are 340 miles apart, not 90 miles apart like NY and Philly. And because these cities are so close (remember, the NY CSA is about 15 miles from Philly's northernmost border) they have a lot to do with each other. And one day in the very near future, Philly will be considered a NY suburb!!!
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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But Cleveland and Chicago are 340 miles apart, not 90 miles apart like NY and Philly. And because these cities are so close (remember, the NY CSA is about 15 miles from Philly's northernmost border) they have a lot to do with each other. And one day in the very near future, Philly will be considered a NY suburb!!!
Philly(city proper) will always have its distinct culture but I will say that the Philly and New York situation is eerily similar to how Baltimore and Washington combined their CSAs. I'm pretty sure people 40-50 years ago would had never thought Baltimore and Washington DC would share the same CSA.

It's inevitable that the Philly and New York area will combine into one single CSA, it's just a matter of when it will happen. The line between Philly suburb and New York City suburb will continue to blur as more people continue to commute to each others MSA vice versa. I do believe that a lot of people outside this region do not realize how close Trenton is to Philly. Even if the Philly CSA does combine with the New York CSA, I don't see how this hurts Philly. It didn't hurt Baltimore when it combined it's CSA with the Washington DC area right?

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