Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Not sure I get your point. Lots of blacks living in a state is not evidence that the state is not "hostile" to them. The blackest states (MS, AL, GA, SC) had the most troubled racial pasts, pre-1970s.
And just what is your point? If you have one...
Also, Atlanta, even before the 1970's was considered a lot more tolerable for blacks to live in than say, Birmingham.
Georgia, Texas, and North Carolina have been the leaders in attracting blacks back to the South since the 1970's, so evidently, there must be something about those states that has attracted them in the last 35-40 years.
It's usually the rural areas that historically had worse racial strife than the urban areas in those states.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
10,138 posts, read 16,043,145 times
Reputation: 4047
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindin
And just what is your point? If you have one...
Also, Atlanta, even before the 1970's was considered a lot more tolerable for blacks to live in than say, Birmingham.
Georgia, Texas, and North Carolina have been the leaders in attracting blacks back to the South since the 1970's, so evidently, there must be something about those states that has attracted them in the last 35-40 years.
It's usually the rural areas that historically had worse racial strife than the urban areas in those states.
During all the tension, they used to call Atlanta as "the busy that was too busy to discriminate" during MLK's time.
I completely disagree. Raleigh has more in common with Austin, Seattle, San Jose and NoVA than it does with Dallas, Nashville, Houston or Atlanta. I'll take myself out of a determination on Charlotte since it's a sister city within the state.
No. Raleigh is a dynamic sunbelt city with a large black population and a large, prosperous black middle class.
That ain't nuthin' like Austin, Seattle, or NoVA...
No. Raleigh is a dynamic sunbelt city with a large black population and a large, prosperous black middle class.
That ain't nuthin' like Austin, Seattle, or NoVA...
I will say that those areas have their share of middle class Black folks, relatively speaking. Heck, even cities like Denver, Madison WI and Columbus OH have their share for their size/percentage.
I will say that those areas have their share of middle class Black folks, relatively speaking. Heck, even cities like Denver, Madison WI and Columbus OH have their share for their size/percentage.
You will not find large swaths of black middle class in places like Denver and Madison like you will in places like Raleigh in the American South.
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
4,084 posts, read 12,681,773 times
Reputation: 1974
It's notable and worth mentioning that places like Texas have large, prosperous, working and middle-class black populations because it means those places are doing something right in attracting minorities. And those minorities are finding it easy to take advantage of opportunities there. None of this would happen if the city or state was hostile to minorities. The population wouldn't be steadily growing because word would get out that it wasn't a good place for blacks, or whatever other ethnic or cultural group you want to insert.
Some people on here are commenting like the article is stating that these "so-called" progressive cities need to start going out and recruiting blacks to live there. Moreover, people are also commenting like blacks would be (or should be) clamoring to move to these cities if a few minor things would just change. That's not the point.
The point of the article is to state that these "so-called" progressive cities should not be calling themselves "progressive." They can continue to be covert-elitist, largely white enclaves--that is their prerogative. However, they should just realize the reality of their non-progressive situation--and give credit to other cities (truly progressive ones) that face racial/ethnic struggles with much more success (or even deal with them in the first place).
Last edited by aries4118; 06-02-2010 at 10:33 AM..
That's why I said relatively speaking. Meaning for the size of the Black communities there.
Of course Raleigh will have more just based on size and history(i.e.-institutions and businesses).
Well, isn't the whole point of the article and this thread is the size of black communities in various places?
Of course there will be middle-class blacks all over the country--however, the significance, the influence, and the sheer size of the black middle class in the American South (and Texas) has to be acknowledged and recognized.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
