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Serious question; I've been trying to find a good list out there for places that offer a distance learning degree for a BS in Public Administration but I've had no luck. Are there any out there? Ones that are accredited of course.
At the BA/BS level, I'd probably think more of an accounting major and public administration/political science minor. The skills that will get you in the door are often a) understanding the financial and budgetary side of things and b) being able to write well and concisely, and it's harder to find a decent numbers person than it is to find a good writer.
Public Administration seems to show up more often at the masters level; a lot of the content at the undergrad level is not too different than a business degree.
So you don't know what employers think about the graduates.
Income and Employment data say nothing about whether employers respect or don't respect for-profit graduates.
They say everything about what for profits produce. The ability to get a job and income level are related to your degree. When you accept anyone and only 20% graduate it's rather clear why for profit degree holders lag well behind in every category compared to traditional schools.
They say everything about what for profits produce. The ability to get a job and income level are related to your degree. When you accept anyone and only 20% graduate it's rather clear why for profit degree holders lag well behind in every category compared to traditional schools.
Ok, those are fascinating theories, but you original claim was that employers do not respect degrees from for-profits.
You are misleading the OP and being disingenuous about it in your deflection to other unrelated topics.
I will ask again. How do you know what the employers think about the degrees earned by for-profit graduates?
Do you have access to employer surveys that speak to this issue of respect? Do you work for employers that have considered hiring for-profit graduates? Are you psychic?
I know tons of people in a wide range of fields whondont hire for profits. People with full sail degrees getting turned down for audio engineering jobs in dc.
Business jobs for defense contractors in dc. Tech jobs for engineering jobs in va. Medical jobs.
I know tons of people in a wide range of fields whondont hire for profits. People with full sail degrees getting turned down for audio engineering jobs in dc.
Business jobs for defense contractors in dc. Tech jobs for engineering jobs in va. Medical jobs.
They are doing a search right now in my department for someone who needs a masters or PHD. If you went to a for profit you have no chance. These candidates however are in the sciences which seem to look down on those type of degrees more than say someone with an MBA.
Ok, those are fascinating theories, but you original claim was that employers do not respect degrees from for-profits.
You are misleading the OP and being disingenuous about it in your deflection to other unrelated topics.
I will ask again. How do you know what the employers think about the degrees earned by for-profit graduates?
Do you have access to employer surveys that speak to this issue of respect? Do you work for employers that have considered hiring for-profit graduates? Are you psychic?
"Far too many for-profit schools are saddling students with debt they cannot afford in exchange for degrees and certificates they cannot use. This is a disservice to students and taxpayers, and undermines the valuable work being done by the for-profit education industry as a whole."
For-Profit Schools Have High Loan Default Rates - Capital News Service (http://www.capitalnews.vcu.edu/2011/05/for-profit-schools-have-high-loan-default-rates.html - broken link)
The Obama Administration has also incorporated regulation against these schools for this very reason.
Ok, those are fascinating theories, but you original claim was that employers do not respect degrees from for-profits.
You are misleading the OP and being disingenuous about it in your deflection to other unrelated topics.
I will ask again. How do you know what the employers think about the degrees earned by for-profit graduates?
Do you have access to employer surveys that speak to this issue of respect? Do you work for employers that have considered hiring for-profit graduates? Are you psychic?
You don't like the facts is the problem. All of the evidence is out there in other threads that you have already posted in and threads you have started on the topic.
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You don't like the facts is the problem. All of the evidence is out there in other threads that you have already posted in and threads you have started on the topic.
The original OP asked about issues related to for-profit schools.
I recognize the facts that have been laid out in this forum. Great points and statistics that for-profits must deal with in order to improve their reputation in higher education.
Yet, you made a claim that employers disrespect for-profit degrees. I don't think I am asking for much that you provide some evidence to support your claim. If not, your credibility related to this topic is questionable.
The original OP asked about issues related to for-profit schools.
I recognize the facts that have been laid out in this forum. Great points and statistics that for-profits must deal with in order to improve their reputation in higher education.
Yet, you made a claim that employers disrespect for-profit degrees. I don't think I am asking for much that you provide some evidence to support your claim. If not, your credibility related to this topic is questionable.
Well, it's mostly anecdotal but my company won't hire peope who have for profit degrees, neither would the last company I worked for and neither will my Father, who owns his own business. An old friend of mine graduated from U of P a few years back even though he spent the entire time high on meth. What does that tell you?
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