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Old 07-15-2013, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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My BA is in criminology.I plan on getting some internships going and also continuing my education for a masters degree. Now for my masters I am debating two degrees, one being international crime & justice and the other being digital forensics and cybersecurity. Both are interesting fields to me but I do not want to feel like I'm entering a worthless masters program(especially if I work hard to gain experience). Which program do you think fits the world more now and has more career opportunities? Thanks for the replies(if I get any that is).
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:33 AM
 
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What do you intend to do with the degree?

Are you an IT guy? What is actually taught in the digital forensics and cybersecurity classes?
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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What do you intend to do with the degree?

Are you an IT guy? What is actually taught in the digital forensics and cybersecurity classes?
Well John jay is a very good and well known school around the world for criminal justice, criminology and law enforcement. But their masters program has some diversity in it. I not the type of guy that can build a PC from scratch then again i still like PCs. I was checking the careers available for the major on glassdoors and indeed and it seemed that the cybersecurity had more options. You can find work at some big companies on the law side of things. Seems cool. My only problem with the international crime&justoce degree is that it seems as if you have to do a lot of searching and have years of experience in order to see anything close to a 6 figure salary. Like I said before both degrees interest me so this is why I'm weighing out the options here.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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If you are getting a graduate degree in criminal justice with the thoughts of starting with a six figure salary, I suggest you rethink your game plan and find another line of work.

The international crime concentration is just fluff. The cybersecurity thing is not much better. People who do that line of work have IT degrees and are IT whizzes, or they have received significant training from the FBI (or other federal agency) after proving their worth as a field agent.

I am familiar with the reputation of JJ but I think you have false expectations about what a CJ graduate degree is going to do for you.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Nothing to add except that I graduated John Jay class of 2009 with a BS in Criminal Justice. That school was awful lol. Good luck to you though.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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If you are getting a graduate degree in criminal justice with the thoughts of starting with a six figure salary, I suggest you rethink your game plan and find another line of work.

The international crime concentration is just fluff. The cybersecurity thing is not much better. People who do that line of work have IT degrees and are IT whizzes, or they have received significant training from the FBI (or other federal agency) after proving their worth as a field agent.

I am familiar with the reputation of JJ but I think you have false expectations about what a CJ graduate degree is going to do for you.
I'm not graduating with a criminal justice degree though. I'm doing my BA in criminology and deciding what masters i will be getting to. I'm not really worried about my future per say just wanted to know between international crimal justice and digital forensics/cybersecurity which one of the two has more options.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:58 AM
 
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Nothing to add except that I graduated John Jay class of 2009 with a BS in Criminal Justice. That school was awful lol. Good luck to you though.
I actually like the school a lot except their reliability(having to go all the way to the city to ask simple questions) but their masters programs seem interesting.

What did you do with your degree?
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: New York NY
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I am not in law enforcement at all and do not have any particular expertise with it. But it seems to me that developing an expertise in digital forensics and cybersecurity will be a growing field in the future. Crimes from terrorism to securities fraud to identity theft to corproate espionage are increasingly computer-generated and law enforcement will have to keep pace with the perpetrators.

My only question is whether or not John Jay is the best place to get trining in this as opposed to some other more generalized program, or a more highly regarded specialized one.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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I am not in law enforcement at all and do not have any particular expertise with it. But it seems to me that developing an expertise in digital forensics and cybersecurity will be a growing field in the future. Crimes from terrorism to securities fraud to identity theft to corproate espionage are increasingly computer-generated and law enforcement will have to keep pace with the perpetrators.

My only question is whether or not John Jay is the best place to get trining in this as opposed to some other more generalized program, or a more highly regarded specialized one.
That's a good question. I use google daily on my options but google is full of alot of stuff and soapy different opinions positive and negative.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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What do you want to do for a living? International crime and justice sounds more like a research field. It might make you more appealing to federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies if you can get in. Learning a critical needs language would help. It would be easier to secure a job with a background in digital forensics and cybersecurity. It would not only make you appealing to federal LE and intelligence agencies, but it can lead to a career with government contractors or in the private sector.

If you're going the cybersecurity route, you're also going to want to look into getting certifications such as CISSP and CEH. If I'm looking at the right program, you're going to have to take the CSIBridge if you don't have a computer science background. That's an extra 12 credit hours.
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