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Old 07-28-2014, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Okay, here's a hypothetical shopping dilemma.

If you could only choose one of these two options, which would you choose? Say they cost the same, and both can have a warranty of 2 years, for a total price of $400.

A 2006 MacBook Pro 15" with upgraded SSD but only 2GB max supported RAM.

OR

A 2008 MacBook Pro 15" not upgraded to SSD but with 4GB max supported RAM.

I ask this because it seems like it's the RAM limitation that keeps me from being able to use newer programs on my PC. Wondering if it's better to have the better drive, but less RAM - or if RAM is more important. Thank you!
After I saw this I looked on craigslist for prices. I couldn't believe how far prices on MacBook Pros fall compared to Macbook Airs.

How much money a month of value does your computer bring to you, include all your C D time, skyping, browsing and researching. You are already probably paying $30+ month of just the internet.

I use to estimate a laptop cost about $30 a month and $15 a month for a desktop based on their useful life.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I would probably go with the 2008 if I really had to choose between those two.
Ditto. RAM > SSD
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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After I saw this I looked on craigslist for prices. I couldn't believe how far prices on MacBook Pros fall compared to Macbook Airs.

How much money a month of value does your computer bring to you, include all your C D time, skyping, browsing and researching. You are already probably paying $30+ month of just the internet.

I use to estimate a laptop cost about $30 a month and $15 a month for a desktop based on their useful life.
This is a really interesting way to look at it. This really hits home with me. Thank you.

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Ditto. RAM > SSD
This was my thinking. Thank you. Plus it occurred to me that with the newer one, I could upgrade to an SSD at some point, too? So, I could, in theory, have an SSD plus twice the RAM with the newer one?
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Not sure. Probably. But if that is important to you (and honestly it wouldn't be to me) I would find out before doing it.

SSD's don't make your programs run faster (unless you are low on RAM). SSD's will make your computer start faster, and will start programs faster. But once say Photoshop is loaded... you will see ZERO difference in how it runs.
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Cape Coma Florida
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I ended up switching to a Mac a few years ago and I have to say I'm very happy with it. It just works. I'm on my second Mac Mini now, and I love it. I used to love XP, but Windows has that registry thing and it gets corrupted and all goofed up just using the computer. Also, most of the viruses and trojans are targeted on Windows machines. I've never yet had a problem with those on my Macs.

Currently I use a Mac Mini 2.5 Ghz with 8gb memory running Mountain Lion, 10.8.5 and I'm totally happy with it. I have 8 terabytes of USB disks plugged into it and a 27 in. monitor and it's my video server. I never watch TV having given that up years ago. Video and audio editing are a breeze. I'd highly recommend you get a Mac.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Not sure. Probably. But if that is important to you (and honestly it wouldn't be to me) I would find out before doing it.

SSD's don't make your programs run faster (unless you are low on RAM). SSD's will make your computer start faster, and will start programs faster. But once say Photoshop is loaded... you will see ZERO difference in how it runs.
I use an SSD for the durability rather than the speed. Laptops get moved around too much. The problem is when you take a lot of picture and become too lazy to delete bad one or even short movie clips you'll fill up the drive. I took a 4 minute movie on my iphone and it came out to 500MB, I moved it via Windows on to a USB hard drive because I didn't want it filling up my SSD or Itunes.

I looked on my 4 year old Mac Book non pro, it ss running with 2GB and I use it mainly for Web Application and Microsoft Office. 4GB is overkill from the everyday non photoshop, non powerpower point user. If you reboot your computer often and don't open 20 browser sessions, you won't need a lot of memory. If you are doing video, you might want the upgraded video card.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Not sure. Probably. But if that is important to you (and honestly it wouldn't be to me) I would find out before doing it.

SSD's don't make your programs run faster (unless you are low on RAM). SSD's will make your computer start faster, and will start programs faster. But once say Photoshop is loaded... you will see ZERO difference in how it runs.
Okay, now I understand the difference with the SSD. Thank you.

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I ended up switching to a Mac a few years ago and I have to say I'm very happy with it. It just works. I'm on my second Mac Mini now, and I love it. I used to love XP, but Windows has that registry thing and it gets corrupted and all goofed up just using the computer. Also, most of the viruses and trojans are targeted on Windows machines. I've never yet had a problem with those on my Macs.
Oh, GACK! The registry issues. I have used registry clean up softwares many, many times. It's a constant battle, and who knows if it is even as clean as it should be, even with the clean up software. And it's true that with malware and virus attacks, my anti-everything software keeps busy.

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I use an SSD for the durability rather than the speed. Laptops get moved around too much. The problem is when you take a lot of picture and become too lazy to delete bad one or even short movie clips you'll fill up the drive. I took a 4 minute movie on my iphone and it came out to 500MB, I moved it via Windows on to a USB hard drive because I didn't want it filling up my SSD or Itunes.

I looked on my 4 year old Mac Book non pro, it ss running with 2GB and I use it mainly for Web Application and Microsoft Office. 4GB is overkill from the everyday non photoshop, non powerpower point user. If you reboot your computer often and don't open 20 browser sessions, you won't need a lot of memory. If you are doing video, you might want the upgraded video card.
Great info, thanks. I like that the SSD is more durable. I like durable.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:49 PM
 
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SSD's don't make your programs run faster (unless you are low on RAM). SSD's will make your computer start faster, and will start programs faster. But once say Photoshop is loaded... you will see ZERO difference in how it runs.
This is incorrect. It depends on the application and the use-case. Especially with Photoshop.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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This is incorrect. It depends on the application and the use-case. Especially with Photoshop.
So, are you saying the SSD does make programs run faster, too?
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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So, are you saying the SSD does make programs run faster, too?
Not all programs will run faster with an SSD. Many will. Photoshop is a great example. Photoshop uses scratch disk files to manage all the data it has to deal with. Putting these scratch disk files on an SSD will lead to a significant improvement if dealing with large images.

The same applies to video and sound editing software.

If you use up all your RAM, an SSD will be much faster than an HD with virtual memory; enabling programs to be more responsive.
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